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On 01/11/13 23:27, Chris Steipp wrote:
Since we have CORS, javascript on the wikipedia page
could make the
update directly in wikidata. I'd let the wikidata / ve people decide
if that's desirable, but it's possible.
Maybe yes, but wikidata allows different opinions. How do you decide, if
the chunk of text replaced in VE should replace the data or if it should
be just adding it by another chunk of data.
Just a few examples:
1. Replacement:
a) data gets clearer
We did not knew the exact number of killed/injured people of a big
accident/catastrophes relevant for all Wikipedias (also the German one
;-) ) recently after it happend. Fucushima would be an example or a big
Earth quake like in Haiti.
With the time you will get an exact number, because it needed some time
to figure this out and the number changes as some more people die
afterwards initially caused by the accident.
Articles are created very soon after anything like that. In the
beginning they use the data populated also by the media. With the time
this will get clearer and the data will turn more precise. So also those
values need to be changed.
b) Wrong entered data:
Sometimes it happens, however, that somebody enter wrong data. This can
happen intentionally and just by accident. If you change this data in
the VE, you definitely have to replace this on Wikidata.
2. Additional Information:
There is an election in a country. The former president was not
reelected. If this is changed on Wikidata, the information should not be
replaced on Wikidata, it should be added with the qualifier "since:date"
and the previous value should be altered by "until:date"
In the end all edits in by authors in the current editor and in the
visual one will are just tracked as changes, but how do you decide
weather to replace the information or add it?
Marco
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Marco Fleckinger
<marco.fleckinger(a)wikipedia.at> wrote:
Hi,
I would assume that there will be something like a shortcut or a button like
"integrate Wikidata-property here", where you could inline search for this.
Internally i could immagine a list where all items are tracked and a<span
class="wikidata" id="wikidata_key"> where the id of this html-tag
is the key
in the internal list.
Marco
On 01/11/13 21:32, Strainu wrote:
Hi,
Starting from a very different problem, I found myself asking a very
strange question: How will the Visual Editor interact with Wikidata?
Namely, let's say that somebody is editing the article about Romania
in the visual editor. The article contains an infobox with all the
data brought from Wikidata. The user will edit one of those fields
(say, the president's name). Will that change automatically be
reflected back to Wikidata? If not, will it be even possible to edit
those fields? If the change is pushed to Wikidata, how are conflicts
handled (2 users editing the president's name on different wikis
during a very crowded period when changes take a while to replicate
and one of them makes a mistake)?
I seem to remember that wikidata edit-in-place is planned for phase
II, but I always assumed this would happen using some kind of popup
window, which kindof beats the purpose of a visual editor.
Thanks,
Strainu
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