Hi Tom,
The map is a visualisation/access point to an existing tool, rather
than a tool per se.
It doesn't say "near me, sorted by distance" because, well, someone
had announced special:nearby two days earlier, and that problem was
solved! In fact, I came up with this in response to special:nearby,
because I liked the idea of geographically-based worklists but was a
bit constrained by being in a well-picked-over location. I wanted to
be able to point at a general area I like or find interesting, but
don't happen to be in, and work through the pictures in that way.
Getting a rough map visualization out of it was a bonus.
The resolution is deliberately kept coarse because even 1x1 degree
boxes require 25,000 or more to cover the globe, and I didn't
particularly want to have to hammer the API for a week each time it
updated. Doing it in closer resolution for a specific country/region
is something I'd like to do but haven't had time for.
It's not zoomable and it doesn't use the SPARQL API because I don't
know how to do either of those things and spending a few weeks
learning them in order to do a Friday-evening toy project is not
really what I want to spend my time on. In addition, as the WD-FIST
tool itself uses WDQ, it makes sense to have the map be generated
using the same queries.
You're more than welcome to run with either aspect, though - there's a
copy of the code behind it at
http://www.generalist.org.uk/wikidata/geoscript if you can suffer
through badly-commented shell scripts :-)
A.
On 23 December 2015 at 17:00, Tom Morris <tfmorris(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the explanations. I'd forgotten that
Wikipedia articles can link
to random images that are only peripherally related to the subject of the
article.
The pointers to the tools are appreciated, since I think tooling is key to
getting widespread participation in tasks like this, but I'd suggest that
the tooling isn't quite "there" yet. The first tool, suggested by Lydia
&
Gerard, gave me a page of text in Swedish about someone I've never heard of
and wanted me to say whether the photo was correct or not. Sorry, not
playing that game (I don't read Swedish).
The map is a good idea, but the current implementation isn't zoomable and
the resolution is so coarse that it's basically a wild guess to get within
100km or so of a location. Why not have the default be "near me, sorted by
distance from me" like the Special:Nearby page? And, as an aside, why does
it use WDQ instead of the official query API?
The list of monuments didn't have anything for my country or the closest
neighboring country, so decided to take a look at the really cool photo of
the Swallow's Nest on the Crimean Peninsula. Turns out that the only
article that links to it is the Ukranian article about the Crimean Peninsula
and it isn't linked from the main Ukranian (or any other) article about it,
so there's no easy path to the correct Wikidata item. That's just waaayyy
too much work to expect someone to do.
It wouldn't take much work on the tooling to significantly increase the rate
of contribution for tasks like this.
Tom
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk>
wrote:
The FIST tool is great for this:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/
Can be fed with a WDQ query or a Wikipedia category; generates a list
of all items which don't have a P18 but do have plausible candidate
images, and lets you one-click add images (so everything is human
confirmed).
A seasonal example (takes a few seconds to load):
https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/?category=Christmas&depth=3&l…
If you want to do it geographically, I knocked up a world map
interface to the tool:
http://www.generalist.org.uk/wikidata/
There are now 1,071,000 Wikidata items with main images (broke a
million about a month ago). 431,000 of these are people, which means
about one in seven of our Wikidata biographies have a main portrait
image.
Andrew.
On 22 December 2015 at 21:17, Maxime Lathuilière <groups(a)maxlath.eu>
wrote:
What about making an automatic list of Wikipedia
articles with a image
in
Commons without an image in Wikidata, and then maybe turn the list into
a
Wikidata Game if a human confirmation is required?
Maxime
Le 22/12/2015 22:01, Gerard Meijssen a écrit :
Hoi,
Yes, the English Wikipedia allows for "fair use". Image with fair use
are
not permissible in Wikidata. There is no such thing as automatically it
takes people to start a process and think it true.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 22 December 2015 at 20:52, Tom Morris <tfmorris(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a reason that Wikidata can't just use the same images that
Wikipedia does?
For example, this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Frost_House has a nice public
domain
photo that someone contributed back in 2010, but it's not referenced
from
Wikidata
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7964895
Why couldn't these all be referenced automatically?
Tom
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I cordially invite you to donate some time and add an image from
> Wikimedia Commons to Wikidata this year. For inspiration you may
> choose one
> of the recent Wiki Loves Monuments prize winning photos from your
> local
> competition being added to the Wikidata item about that monument, one
> of
> your favorite paintings from your local museum being added to the
> Wikidata
> item about that painting, an image of christmas cookies that you made
> that
> you could add to an item about that type of cookie, or anything else
> that
> has an item but no image yet.
>
> To help you overcome the difficulties with editing on Wikidata, here
> is a
> short film by User:Jan_Ainali_(WMSE) on how to add an image to an
> item:
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Add_image_to_Wikidata.webm
>
> Thanks, good luck and let's hope we see some structured data for
> Commons
> in 2016,
> Jane
>
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015_winners
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Museums
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Christmas_cookies
>
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Commons
>
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