Dear Pierre-Yves and all,
I hope you all are doing great !
I know that the Saudi government invests in covering the Hajj with
professional photographers (around 30). It would be great if we could ask
them to donate those pictures. We could start this conversation through the
Saudi contributors, or if you want I could ping someone who could help to
initiate this conversation with their Royal Court - Diwan. Or may be
through Misk Foundation ?
This would let us optimise work and spend the potential budget in a more
relevant work/initiative.
Best regards
Emna
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Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget, find
some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be
happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on
the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb
Wikimedia France
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 16:57:21 +0100
From: Mounir Touzri <touzrimounir(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
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hi
it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users, and
I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to
take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
pierre.beaudouin(a)wikimedia.fr>gt;:
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
find
some funds for the project (I think that some
European chapters would be
happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some
wikimedians send Wikipedia on
the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb
Wikimedia France
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 22:44:25 +0000
From: Abbad Diraneyya <aaddira(a)hotmail.com>
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Hi,
I get to visit Mecca a few times each year and I might be there at the
time of Al-Hajj. However, it's not that simple to hand someone a camera and
ask him to go to Hajj; it's a trip so rough that you only do it once or
twice in a lifetime.
Going to Hajj implies going through a very rough time. It means spending
half a day only to get there, sleeping in the street at night, walking at
least a dozen kilometers per day, in addition to countless other hardships
and even safety risks that you will have to endure for nearly five
consecutive days. If there is a budget for such a project, you'll have to
at least include a reasonable fee for the photographer himself, as well as
to consider the legal possibility or permission of taking photos there.
I do not mean to be negative, but this and more should be taken into
account if you're seriously willing to consider this project.
Best,
Abbad.
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hi
it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users, and
I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to
take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
pierre.beaudouin(a)wikimedia.fr>gt;:
Hi,
First of all, my apology for my email in english.
It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
2018 (or 2019).
There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
almost
nothing of quality.
I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
find
some funds for the project (I think that some
European chapters would be
happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
of
articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some
wikimedians send Wikipedia on
the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
Pyb
Wikimedia France
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
[2]
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