Ahh ... it's a whole new meaning of transclusion ...
I am tempted to say "well, just work with the original wikitext and don’t resolve the
templates" but I guess the problem here is that all templates aren't equal. Links
in an infobox are much more likely to be relevant to *this* article than links in a navbox
are and who knows about arbitrary templates more generally. I saw a stat in passing the
other day that said around 50% of Wikipedia article have navboxes and I confess to having
added a few navboxes even in the past few days. As a reader I like them, but they are a
pain for anyone using "What links here".
Indeed, just using
insource:"Chapel Hill, Queensland"
* without* the square brackets does a jolly fine job of identifying the articles that
mention the article [[Chapel Hill, Queensland]] or just the topic and provides a snippet
(not a great one but it does gives some context to the link)
It works because it sees the links that are used as parameters in the infobox (whether or
not they are wrapped in square brackets) but can't see the ones embedded in the
definition of the navboxes. Plus you get mentions as well as links. Sweet! If one could
have a filter that eliminated the "mutually linking" articles (X links to Y and
Y links to X) it would be close to nailing it! Of course it works better for longer
article titles unlikely to occur in other circumstances. I wouldn't bother to try it
for [[Food]] but then I am looking to a tool to populate stubs which probably eliminates
"common name" articles.
Kerry
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From: Nick Wilson (Quiddity) [mailto:nwilson@wikimedia.org]
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Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Finding what is said about a topic in other articles
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed, the “Notable residents” section is one that
would definitely benefit from this tool. Is it just me or is there something actually
broken with “What links here?”. I try to suppress the transclusions (usually coming from
navboxes) but they are still displayed no matter whether I say to “Show/Hide
Transclusions” but a search of the article reveals there is no other link present.
That existing feature works by hiding/showing where *the page itself* is transcluded
*into*. E.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:WikiFauna
vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:W…
Making it work differently for incoming links that are coming from a template, is a
long-standing (and complicated to implement)
feature-request:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14396
However, I see this comment by Izno suggests a partial (manual) workaround, using an
"insource:/\[\[FOO/" search.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14396#3246134
e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=all&a…
versus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:WikiGremlin
(I'm not sure why Izno's example also includes the "linksto:FOO"
string, but it appears to be redundant)
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Quiddity