Hello, indeed a very interesting topic, and one should really treat small
and big Wikipedias as very different kinds of websites. Just alone that on
big Wikipedias, you have and use a watchlist, while on a small Wikipedia,
you basically use the Recent changes.
A systematic comparison would be great. My paper ten years ago was more a
survey on the topic by itself: Ziko van Dijk: Wikipedia and
lesser-resourced languages. In: *Language Problems and Language Planning*
33 (2009, Nr. 3, Herbst), S. 234-255.
Actually in the book I am working on right now, such a systematic
comparison would be a very useful example for how to apply my wiki model...
:-)
Kind regards
Ziko
Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 21:13 Uhr schrieb Lucie Kaffee <
lucie.kaffee(a)gmail.com>gt;:
Just adding a small point I saw while interviewing
editors of different
language Wikipedias: I believe (and haven't further investigated, so take
this with a grain of salt) that there is also a general difference in the
behavior of "small" and "large" communities, e.g., in trust between
the
editors and how they work together. This seemed to be independent of other
cultural context, but this is rather anecdotal and would be interesting to
see further investigated.
I find it generally a very interesting topic and look forward to what
results from the discussion here, so far I see research only applying their
methods across Wikipedias rather than drawing conclusion from one language
version to another.
Thanks Isaac also for the collection of reading material :)
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 16:23 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>
wrote:
Thanks a lot for bringing this up.
Sorry for not offering a solution, but I do want to mention a
frequently-missed aspect of the problem: Wikis in different languages
have
some differences that are understandable because
they reflect some
objective cultural characteristics of the people who speak it. But some
differences are artificial and exit because in the early days of
Wikimedia
(mid-2000s) there were no convenient ways for
wikis to communicate and
share info. There were no global accounts and no convenient translation
tools.
Templates are still not global, even though there is huge demand for
it,[1]
and a lot of community process are implemented
using templates: requests
for deletion, requests for unblocking, article sorting for WikiProjects,
stub sorting. Many of these things could be unified, at least partially,
by
making templates global, and among many benefits,
it would make research
easier, too.
[1] It came at #3 in the Community Wishlist vote in 2015, and at #1 in
2016. Despite this demand, it was not implemented :(
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בתאריך יום ד׳, 2 באוק׳ 2019 ב-14:37 מאת Jan Dittrich <
jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de>:
> Hello researchers,
>
> A lot of research on Wikipedia is published in English and also uses
the
> English Wikipedia as source of data or
researchers get their
participants
> via English Wikipedia [0].
>
> A frequent criticism I meet when discussing such research with
non-en.wp
> community members is that their Wikipedia is
different and the results
of
en.wp
base research are problematic/incomparable/totally useless.
So I want to ask:
- Do you know of research comparing different Wikis, preferably across
language versions? [1]
- How would you deal with such criticism, particularly of the "if it is
not
> about 'my' wp it is useless"-kind [2]?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Jan
>
> ____
> [0] Plausible due to academi fields, particularly Computer Science,
> publishing mainly in english, size and WMF as actor being US-based.
> [1] I know of »revisiting "The Rise and Decline" in a Population of
Peer
> Production Projects«
(
https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3173929),
> comparing different Wikia-Wikis; Research like "limits of
> self-organization" (
https://firstmonday.org/article/view/1405/1323)
that
> refer to general principles of peer
production. Comparisons of
Wikipedias
across
languages and the impact of their different contexts, languages
and
regulations would be very interesting to me.
[2] I'm aware that making heterogeneous things comparable is seen as a
core
academic/scientific activity in STS research
(Law, SL Star, Turnbull…)
so I
do not want to say, transfer to a different
setting is not a problem –
but
it is certainly not "totally useless"
either.
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