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Andrea Forte

21 May 21 May

11:21 a.m.

I think there is also a research workshop that might happen in Boston... I'm not 100% sure if it's on the schedule at this point. I'll be there, I know Cormac will too. He started this page to talk about what we might want to accomplish at such a workshop: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Program/Research_thingy I can say that the reason I haven't been sharing much is that I haven't collected any new data recently. :-) Andrea On 5/21/06, Kevin Gamble <kevin_gamble(a)ncsu.edu> wrote:

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Colleagues, I'm wondering if anyone else might be interested in trying to ramp-up the activity of the Research Network? More discussion of results, research ideas, methodologies, log manipulation, collaborative work, script sharing, visualization techniques, funding, etc? I'm not sure exactly how to make this happen but thought that it might make a good topic itself. I'm wondering who might be coming to Boston? I'd be willing to buy the beer if we'd like to try to get together. Kevin Kevin J. Gamble. Ph.D. Associate Director eXtension Initiative North Carolina State University Jabber/XMMP: kjgamble(a)chat.extension.org Web: about.extension.org Blog: it.extension.org/kevin _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

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Kevin Gamble

22 May 22 May

10:54 a.m.

Andre, et al: I signed up for the workshop in Boston. Looking forward to it. In regards to the sharing I was actually thinking of the workshop Erik and Jakob conducted in Frankfurt. I learned a lot from that session, and came home and started learning R and Jung. It would be nice if we could share that type of information outside of the context of an annual meeting. Maybe what we need is a wiki research cookbook? Sort of a step-by-step approach with code snippets on methodologies? A wiki book? kevin

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I think there is also a research workshop that might happen in Boston... I'm not 100% sure if it's on the schedule at this point. I'll be there, I know Cormac will too. He started this page to talk about what we might want to accomplish at such a workshop: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Program/Research_thingy I can say that the reason I haven't been sharing much is that I haven't collected any new data recently. :-) Andrea On 5/21/06, Kevin Gamble <kevin_gamble(a)ncsu.edu> wrote:

Colleagues, I'm wondering if anyone else might be interested in trying to ramp-up the activity of the Research Network? More discussion of results, research ideas, methodologies, log manipulation, collaborative work, script sharing, visualization techniques, funding, etc? I'm not sure exactly how to make this happen but thought that it might make a good topic itself. I'm wondering who might be coming to Boston? I'd be willing to buy the beer if we'd like to try to get together. Kevin Kevin J. Gamble. Ph.D. Associate Director eXtension Initiative North Carolina State University Jabber/XMMP: kjgamble(a)chat.extension.org Web: about.extension.org Blog: it.extension.org/kevin _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

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Andrea Forte

4:50 p.m.

There is a space for discussing research on meta, although I don't know if it's been used in quite the same way as on the German Wikipedia. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research Sometimes I find it difficult to know how exactly to share anything before I have a finished project because I tend to take a phenomenological approach to research. Most of what I do is grounded in human experience and practice and requires in-depth interpretative analysis. And, of course, because I do a lot of qualitative work, the data itself needs to be protected for the sake of my participants. Perhaps these are issues that warrant discussion in such a resource. :-) andrea On 5/22/06, Elisabeth Bauer <elian(a)djini.de> wrote:

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Kevin Gamble schrieb:

Maybe what we need is a wiki research cookbook? Sort of a step-by-step approach with code snippets on methodologies? A wiki book?

In the German Wikipedia, we have a couple of pages in the Wikipedia namespace, dedicated to Wikipedia research: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik Researchers can describe their projects there and - if they want - also work partially in public in the wiki. The same could be done on an international level on meta wiki. If there's interest here, I can set up a page similar to the german one. regards, elian _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

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Gerard Meijssen

14 Jun 14 Jun

5:45 a.m.

New subject: Metadata extension

Kevin Gamble wrote:

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I felt a little guilty about suggesting we share more when I realized that we had discussed this at our December meeting and that I had never followed-up. We have developed a metadata extension for MediaWiki that some of you might find of interest. In December we were developing a Dublin Core extension for Mediawiki. We have since switched that to a IEEE LOM based tool. The only piece of this that is not totally generic is the "coverage" element. For anyone that is interested you can find it here: http://it.extension.org/wiki/BettaMeta It is very new and we have not listed it on Meta just yet. We will get that done. Kevin

Hoi, I am reading e-mail that I have not had time to read yet. What I find truly interesting in your mail is the "IEEE-LOM" based part. I have/had plans to work on an IEEE-LOM implementation at some stage.. Do you have some document explaining how your approach is ? Have you considered that there are many implementations of IEEE-LOM ?? What to do about localisation ?? Thanks, GerardM

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Kevin Gamble

8:17 p.m.

I really like the idea of doing this in Wikiversity! I also keep up with Jakobs page. I hadn't seen the German pages before but that is definitely the right idea. This is a good conversation for us to be having prior to Boston. Maybe we can get this going. Kevin

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Kevin, That's great you've signed up for the workshop - looking forward to actually meeting you this time! The meta page is just a brainstorm as of yet, so please add ideas of what you'd like to hear/talk about etc. A book about what can be done on wiki research is a great idea! There are already books on Wikibooks that align with what you're thinking of, eg. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Statistics and http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wiki_Science - there are possibly more. But if you are proposing a space for exploring methodologies, well, this list is a decent start - but it's also the kind of thing that I'd like to see included in Wikiversity, ie. a community of practice about doing research on Wikimedia or wikis in general. I'd also like to share more about R for example - I've been struggling with it all year ;-) Overall, I think sharing is the right way to go - I think we should be doing a lot more of it. Incidentally, Jakob keeps a blog on his and related work at http://wm.sieheauch.de/ Cheers, Cormac On 5/22/06, Kevin Gamble <kevin_gamble(a)ncsu.edu> wrote:

Andre, et al: I signed up for the workshop in Boston. Looking forward to it. In regards to the sharing I was actually thinking of the workshop Erik and Jakob conducted in Frankfurt. I learned a lot from that session, and came home and started learning R and Jung. It would be nice if we could share that type of information outside of the context of an annual meeting. Maybe what we need is a wiki research cookbook? Sort of a step-by-step approach with code snippets on methodologies? A wiki book? kevin

I think there is also a research workshop that might happen in Boston... I'm not 100% sure if it's on the schedule at this point. I'll be there, I know Cormac will too. He started this page to talk about what we might want to accomplish at such a workshop: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Program/Research_thingy I can say that the reason I haven't been sharing much is that I haven't collected any new data recently. :-) Andrea On 5/21/06, Kevin Gamble <kevin_gamble(a)ncsu.edu> wrote: > Colleagues, > > I'm wondering if anyone else might be interested in trying to ramp-up > the > activity of the Research Network? More discussion of results,

research

> ideas, methodologies, log manipulation, collaborative work, script > sharing, visualization techniques, funding, etc? > > I'm not sure exactly how to make this happen but thought that it

might

> make a good topic itself. I'm wondering who might be coming to

Boston?

I'd be willing to buy the beer if we'd like to try to get together. Kevin Kevin J. Gamble. Ph.D. Associate Director eXtension Initiative North Carolina State University Jabber/XMMP: kjgamble(a)chat.extension.org Web: about.extension.org Blog: it.extension.org/kevin _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

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