I find very useful Dario's distinction and agree with the procedural he suggests,
Mayo
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From: rcom-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [rcom-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
Dario Taraborelli [dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org]
Sent: 12 December 2011 21:08
To: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list
Subject: Re: [RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons
My feeling is that we shouldn't be conflating the two issues, as this would be
confusing for the community:
1) review of Berkman banner and implementation of changes discussed on the list
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html
2) discussion of future approach towards SR, Omnibus survey etc
(1) needs to take place this week, I have a conference call (date/time still tbc) with the
researchers and some community members, if any of you is willing to help with this please
let me know off-list and I'll add you to the list of attendees. I don't feel
there's a need to host an actual RCom meeting to review the proposed changes (which
seem fairly uncontroversial and will be discussed on wiki). I would rather keep this
opportunity to discuss (2) and the broader implications of the Berkman incident for the
future.
Dario
On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:50:24 -0500, Diederik van
Liere
<dvanliere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear WSC,
I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman controversy is
about. My understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on
central
notice during the fundraiser and the kickback of
donations is at the
heart
of the controversy. It is not about the
legitimacy of the research
institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research methodology, or the
actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how
to
to promote research studies but not debate the
merits of Wikipedia
research
itself.
I think right now it is mostly about the lack of communication, and this
is what we need to discuss as well. The main objections have been
summarized at two pages on English Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices
as well as on the Meta proposal page
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and…
Cheers
Yaroslav
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