Thanks for digging into this, Adam. I don't think the prominence of the
feature is justified by the usage stats, so I'd be in favor of removing it
from Opera/lower JS devices.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Good question, will take a look once I'm at a
place with stats cluster
access.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
How does this compare to usage of users on say
Chrome...?
On 9 Jun 2014 18:02, "Adam Baso" <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Juliusz suggested I email out details to mobile-l on the following.
>
> The question arose during an Opera discussion today whether hiding the
> Watchlist icon (which is the case on non-HTTPS supporting UX on Wikipedia
> Zero) on mobile web in the page menubar (not the same as the flyout
> "hamburger" menu) might make sense generally for <noscript> or lower
JS
> devices? The Watchlist star on the page menubar takes up a lot of space,
> and as it's the only thing there at the moment (on en.m at least, icons
> like Edit and Add Photo aren't shown), hiding that menubar icon would free
> up some valuable screen real estate.
>
> On <noscript> or lower JS devices (or browsers where RL suppresses JS
> due typically to challenges around timing of Deferreds and the like), using
> the Opera traffic as an example of such a browser, it seems like Watchlist
> usage is sort of low (this is at 1% sampling resolution).
>
> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz |
> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep 'action=watch' | wc -l
> 3
>
> In other words, it seems users make it to the point of using the
> feature, but only about 300 times per day total. Meanwhile, the Watchlist
> start takes up valuable screen real estate for every pageview.
>
> The usage of the feature is about 1/10 of the Opera usage involving
> submission of the login form (a prerequisite of watchlist usage).
>
> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz |
> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep -i 'Special:UserLogin' | grep
'POST' | wc -l
> 31
>
> Which is about 1/10 of Opera usage of the login feature in any capacity
> (GETting the form or POSTing the form)
>
> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz |
> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep -i 'Special:UserLogin' | wc -l
> 331
>
> Which is maybe 1/270 of an oversimplified "pageview" metric on Opera
> Mini, using text/html response types as a rough guide.
>
> $ zcat /a/squid/archive/mobile/mobile-sampled-100.tsv.log-20140409.gz |
> grep 'proxy=Opera' | grep 'text/html' | wc -l
> 89403
>
> The relatively low usage of the Watchlist feature is probably
> symptomatic of the multiscreen flow on such devices.
>
> -Adam
>
>
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