I can see both sides of the wiki markup issue.
I think it is very easy for anybody to change an existing page by adding
something to a list, changing some wording around or other minor edits.
To start a new page from scratch it can be intimidating.
The one thing I like about wiki markup is that it is readable unlike
html. I am not sure how other wiki software does with WYSIWYG but I
cannot stand any WYSIWYG html editor or WYSIWYG content management
system.
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From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kirk
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:46 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Apple's Wiki Server brings WYSIWYG to wiki
I'm sorry, but I just don't understand how it is hard to use...sure,
tables
might be a little difficult, and having images how you want them too,
but
for simple editing it really isn't, especially with the edit bar.
-- gary kirk
On 8/8/06, MHart <wiki(a)matthart.com> wrote:
Intuit uses MediaWiki in the majority of its internal wikis - over
100. We
have one MediaWiki running with fck. Some groups are
migrating to
Jotspot
since it provides wysiwyg.
The lack of wysiwyg is indeed a hurdle for contributors. Even at a
"techie"
company like Intuit, half the potential contributors see wikitext as a
hurdle.
This number likely reflects the rest of the world - it wouldn't
surprise
me
if many potential Wikipedia contributors are also stymied by wikitext.
Do
you have the number of Edit clicks that didn't
then result in a Save?
That
might be a decent indicator of first-time contribution
attempts that
failed
for some reason - possibly intimidated by wikitext.
The one wiki we have with fck was an add-on to an existing wiki and
encountered the compatibility issues Brion mentioned. However, just as
the
community cleans up wikitext pages, the community
cleaned up the
conversion
issues - just as they would in Wikipedia.
You get the closest conversion that you can and then people will clean
up
what remains.
- MHart
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