Thank you everyone who participated! A few ideas discussed, please add if
i missed anything:
* Get more involvement with OSM community mailing lists
* Use "osm" instead of "osm-intl" layer as the base, but bring in the
street names
* Evaluate migration of WIWOSM's frontend to Simon's code, with the
following merge in into Kartographer extension
* Evaluate migration of WIWOSM database to production servers
* Use Wikiminiatlas's label placing logic in Kartographer
* Wait until Mapnik hstore support for multi-lingual maps
* Would love to get a wiki-specific map design
Here's a copy of the chat we had running - I cleaned it up a bit. This is
mostly for us to remember the posted links.
### Jo Hannes
WIWOSM
### Max Semenik
https://github.com/aiomaster/WIWOSM ?
### Jo Hannes
Do you use wikidata tags on the OSM objects?
### Blake Girardot
Here are two relevant OSM wiki links, not sure how up to date they are,
just for background or information.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WIWOSM
### Yuri Astrakhan
http://vem.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
### Blake Girardot
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia
Is there outreach to the OSM email lists?
### Yuri Astrakhan
https://github.com/kartotherian/osm-bright.tm2source
### Max Semenik
https://github.com/kartotherian/osm-bright.tm2source/blob/master/data.yml#L…
### Blake Girardot
Yes, that is true
We had long discussion about it in May
on Tagging list
I think most are open to the idea
### Max Semenik
And I was one of bottery proponents in it:)
### Jo Hannes
I had already started with that...
### Blake Girardot
I just see very little mention of wiwosm at all, announcments in 2012, but
not much since.
### Jo Hannes
adding streets and where their names come from
yes, better to get it right for all languages
I will, but don't want to interrupt the flow of the conversation. Mostly
listening in. Very interestting
### Yuri Astrakhan
https://maps.wikimedia.org/?s=osm
### Daniel Schwen
Sounds like a compromise worth pursuing
### Yuri Astrakhan
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Kartographer
### Blake Girardot
Thank you very much, it was very interesting
### Yuri Astrakhan
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kartenwerkstatt/Position…
### Blake Girardot
My only suggestion is more outreach on the OSM lists for collaboration.
osm-talk, osm-tagging or osm-dev, might find more help etc. maybe even the
mapbox people. I apologize if you already have and I have just missed it, I
am not on osm-dev
### Daniel Schwen
Good point about the two use cases
the popup will have to be general
but the embedded map must be *very* customizable
### Blake Girardot
I see.
interesting
700k wikipedia tags current v. 40k wiki data in OSM according to taginfo
oh wow, me too
the josm plugin sounds great
### Daniel Schwen
Ok, guys, I have to go! Interesting to see this gaining momentum. I will
follow this, keep me in the loop.
### Blake Girardot
Yes we do
### Jo Hannes
cu later
oh, I was saying bye to Daniel
aware of the potential for privacy ivnasion
### Blake Girardot
Thank you very much everyone
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <yastrakhan(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Update: If you want to discuss maps, please join this
hangout
https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/yastrakhan
Monday, December 21, 19:00 UTC / 2:00pm EST / 11:00 am Pacific
If you have any problems connecting, or if you want to talk at a different
time, email me directly at yuri(a)wikimedia.org
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yastrakhan(a)wikimedia.org
wrote:
Anyone who wants to participate in this
discussion is welcome to join the
hangout.
How about next Monday, December 21, 19:00 UTC / 2:00pm EST / 11:00 am
Pacific
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Tim Alder <tim(a)alder-digital.de> wrote:
Hello Yuri,
if you look on the updated version of the map from Simon[1]
you can see that we use now text labels for Wikipedia entries.
This is a design element from the WikiMiniAtlas and I think it has an
positiv effect for the user to set the visual focus on Wikipedia
content. It's also the aim to look different that google maps and it's a
quick (and dirty) way to multilingual maps. ;-)
The problem we have now is, that we have on zommlevels that are on
Country level tons of duplications because we have the Wikipedia-label
and the Text from OSM background. If we only switch to a background
style I would miss useful informations from OSM like street names.
So it would be interesting to discuse if we could get an map where
objects with an Wikipedia/Wikidata tag are transparent. We can also talk
about if we can get a vector tiles layer with these objects from my
database to use the geojson tiles in Leaflet...
I also see a chance that labels are becoming more consitant during
panning and zooming in.
So perhaps it would be possible if you could prepair an hangout to talk
about this and find a date for it via doodle or so. Europes evening
hours would be fine for me, but it's christmas time and the people are
busy.
Best regards,
Tim alias Kolossos
[1]
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wiwosm/osm-gadget-leaflet/#/?lang=en&article=…