[Maps-l] Server admin procedures wrt ptolemy and ortelius

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Hi, Just a few notes from me regarding server administration of ptolemy and ortelius... Please keep in mind that ptolemy and ortelius are meant to be WMF production boxes. That means they're (also) managed by the Wikimedia Ops team. I think that for the near future we're happy to let you play with the boxes and experiment with what OSM/integration software/architecture works best. But eventually, when these maps are integrated into our core web sites, the servers and software will need to be managed by WMF as well as you guys. Especially since you volunteers might lose interest in the long run... :) That means: - Please work with us; keep us informed - Put documentation in our documentation wiki, http://wikitech.wikimedia.org. If you need access, please contact me and I'll get you set up. - Logging of server actions can be done on #wikimedia-tech using the log bot. Just use "!log <message>" in the channel, it will work. Put the server-name in the line. - If you have any problems/issues/needs related to managing the servers in general (RAID controller/driver issues?), as opposed to OSM software specific things, then certainly ask us! Chances are we've already solved it or have a certain way of doing things, and there is no need for you to reinvent the wheel. :) Ptolemy and ortelius are, in the long run, *not* meant to be used by toolserver users. Those boxes are explicitly separate. You can't run a production database when users are running all kinds of inefficient and uncoordinated queries on it. :) For now it doesn't matter, but keep this in mind. Cassini is a toolserver, and managed by Wikimedia Germany. They do things differently than WMF, coordinate with them to see what works there. Thanks! -- Mark Bergsma &lt;mark(a)wikimedia.org&gt; System & Network Administrator, Wikimedia Foundation