I agree with this, too.
Greetings from Depok,
Jan
Am 2023-08-04 23:19, schrieb Satdeep Gill:
I agree with the arguments being made in favor of
having a different
criteria for Wikisource and we should create a separate Wikisource for
Georgian as per what Amir says. I think the Georgian community should
be able to take ownership of the project and satisfy the criteria
mentioned by Amir.
Best
Satdeep
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 16:55, Amir E. Aharoni
<amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
> I agree with Nicolas and Nataliia. They aren't Langcom members, but
> their opinion is sensible and well-explained. In Wikisource,
> stability is not less important than continuous activity.
>
> (In Wikinews, each article is supposed to freeze after a short time,
> but the activity is supposed to be otherwise continuous, unlike in
> Wikisource, which may become complete in some languages at some
> point. Whether it actually works in the current editions of Wikinews
> is a separate discussion.)
>
> So I'd say that for practical purposes, if there is a lot of content
> , and the community is good enough at preventing vandalism to it,
> that's enough for Wikisource. The current Georgian Wikisource
> satisfies both criteria: as far as I can see, it has many more pages
> than any other language in
wikisource.org [1], and they aren't being
> vandalized.
>
> בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 14:12, מאת Nataliia
> Tymkiv <ntymkiv(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
>
> True, that community activities are important, and I think that it
> is important to approve all other projects. But Wikisource is a very
> different project, where the value would be even in its passive
> existence. When there are text available in that language -- and
> there are already a few of them -- the chances of a community being
> drawn to it are bigger. But in any case value for readers is really
> big. Maybe the rules should be different for Wikisource because of
> its different nature (no original text, basically)?
>
> Best regards,
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
>
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> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19 AM Sotiale Wiki
> <sotiale.wm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am negative for approval. Whether a community is sustainable is
> very important, and this has been a consistent criterion.
> Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account
> the nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no
> argument has been made that it should be taken into account.
>
> If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all
> of them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time
> from a small number of users. Or even if there are no such users.
> Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages,
> which also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But
> no one is running this project right now. I don't think it's
> appropriate for this wikiversity incubating project to have an
> independent domain. And the Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in
> a situation that is not very different when looking at recent
> activities.
>
> I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or
> consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing
> explanation for the approval of the project despite questioning the
> sustainability of the community. Otherwise, we face demands from
> numerous projects to be individual and to recognize exceptions.
>
> Sotiale
>
> 2023년 8월 4일 (금) 오후 3:38, Tochi Precious
> <tochiprecious2(a)gmail.xn--com>-4f21ay07k 작성:
>
> I totally agree as well.
> Let's move this forward.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni
> <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
> Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource?
> It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's
> strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual
> site. And there are waves of activity, too.
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע
> אַהֲרוֹנִי
>
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> “We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
>
> בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת
> MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com>:
>
> No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently.
> Approving makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do
> the "upkeep" on a separate wiki, when the content is perfectly
> accessible (without prefixes) on the multilingual Wikisource.
>
> I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this
> year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted?
>
> I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now
> inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems
> like there was no response
>
(<
).
>
> Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> schrieb am Do., 24.
> März 2022, 20:00:
>
> Hi!
>
> Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :)
>
> It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently,
> they were recategorized.
>
>
> I can't think of a reason to keep it there.
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע
> אַהֲרוֹנִי
>
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
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> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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