I don't think you realize how little helpers
there actually are. A lot
of responses, as is, go unanswered. We don't need increased participation
in #wikipedia-en-help, unless it's increased participation from helpers and
not helpees.
From,
Emily
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for finding that page. I don't know
how much that kind of chat
system would help our editor numbers but it's worth discussing. Any
comments from the Growth and EE teams?
Pine
On Aug 12, 2014 8:10 PM, "quiddity" <pandiculation(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The pro and cons of web-chat, and some technical options are collated
> at:
>
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Live_Chat_System
> (especially the 2nd-to-last section, for "Why not IRC?")
> IRC makes followup discussion, or time-delayed discussion, too
> difficult, if the user doesn't use their identical username, and state
> their home-wiki. Also, it shows IPs if users don't obtain a cloak first.
>
> However, just for informational purposes, here are links for easy
> comparison:
>
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/test
>
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#test
> ( the default client uses
http://www.qwebirc.org/ )
>
> HTH,
> Quiddity
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That proposal could be considered in the long term, but right now
>> we have plenty of people who seek and get help on IRC, and we can make
>> incremental improvements to their experience faster than we can build a new
>> tool from scratch. Few newbies fail hard at IRC. The basics are similar to
>> texting and private instant messaging software. Let's improve the newbie
>> user experience.
>>
>> Pine
>> On Aug 11, 2014 1:48 PM, "Nathan" <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Newbies are going to fail hard at IRC. Pretty much all of the
>>> questions Seb
>>> poses for a built-in newbie chat still exist with a built-in Freenode
>>> interface, with the addition of a complicated and often difficult
>>> (not to
>>> mention culturally... unique) environment. Much better to think
>>> along the
>>> lines of the Teahouse, but live. You can jump into a chat queue, and
>>> people
>>> who want to help chat with you, and you can close the chat whenever
>>> you
>>> want, and you can't contact people outside of the queue using chat.
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