Hi Jane (limiting reply to gendergap list),
From the normal wiki database, I don't think that
the date when a user
changed a user preference can be found on the database, it just
gives
you the public preferences as set at the time of running a query. It's
an interesting issue, for example if we had a community drive for
women to declare their gender in project preferences, the outcome
might be for people to believe that the proportion of numbers of women
on the project were increasing, when in reality it was just old
accounts tweaking their settings...
(This is a slight tangent, but something other than statistics might
come out of thinking about your case) With regard to your own account,
you have had files overwritten 5 times in the last 360 days but not
overwritten anyone else yourself, all of these by accounts with no
gender set. Looking over all time instead gives:
female-female 1
female-male 2
female-none 18
male-female 35
none-female 74
Obviously apart from the "f-f" case you can see whether you were
overwriting or being overwritten. In the "f-f" case you were
overwritten. 24 cases were the same declared male overwriting your
images and in 30 cases the same account with no gender set (but an
apparent male based on public information on their user home pages)
overwrote you. Most other overwrites were one-off single incidents.
Please keep in mind that overwriting is normal and can be corrections,
crops etc. as part of general healthy and productive collegiate work.
Only a small proportion of the time is it part of a dispute on
Commons.
Fae
On 14 August 2015 at 09:11, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting idea to measure this, but I am not sure what it means. I am a female who has
overwritten many files. When I first joined up I don't think I filled in female until
Sarah asked me to years later. Am I one of the 479?
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry for cross-posting. There may be some readers of this list that may not bother
to follow the busier wikimedia-l one. :-)
>
> I'd appreciate any thoughts and analysis, especially if there are other reports
that might give an insight into whether the number mean much or not a lot...
>
> ----
>
> I have pulled together the following table together for the past 360 days, counting
whenever an image was reverted by someone who was not the last uploader, and then
attempting to find any declared gender:
>
> 2014-2015 Commons file overwrite stats compared to gender
>
> +---------------+----------+
> | sex | count(*) |
> +---------------+----------+
> | female-female | 1 |
> | female-male | 110 |
> | female-none | 426 |
> | male-female | 139 |
> | male-male | 1376 |
> | male-none | 5711 |
> | none-female | 479 |
> | none-male | 5289 |
> | none-none | 15716 |
> +---------------+----------+
>
> Key: "none" means not set in user preferences, "female-male"
means a woman has overwritten a man's file and "male-none" means a declared
male has overwritten an account with no gender set.
>
> I'd appreciate any views on whether there is any statistical meaning to be pulled
from these figures, apart from showing that men probably outnumber women contributors by
ten times on Commons.
>
> If the email is displaying badly, you can find a wiki formatted table and original
generating SQL on the Commons village pump[1]. I thought this would be of wider interest
as though "image revert warring" is mostly an issue for Wikimedia Commons, it is
a very similar area of heated disputes when compared to edit revert warring on Wikipedia
projects. The question popped up from someone interested in my long running
'significant reverts' tracking report.[2]
>
> Links:
> 1.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Does_openly_declari…
> 2.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/SignificantReverts
>
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