pine when you say "plenty' of people what does that constitute? Does anyone
actually track how many needy people come into IRC - let alone those who
can't pass the threshold of typing into the chat box?
Data is a way to convince people of the need or demand and to spend time
investing in IRC. One reason why the Teahouse is so success is because
people do not have to leave the wiki to find help. That's one no no in
business...
I noticed that WMF staff are less interactive on this mailing list these
days, for months actually.
So who knows if anyone with "influence" is paying attention to this.
Sarah
On Aug 12, 2014 7:44 AM, "Emily Monroe" <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I often help out at en-help. Often, people who are new
at IRC need to be
told where to type. I would think this would qualify as "failing hard".
From,
Emily
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That proposal could be considered in the long
term, but right now we have
plenty of people who seek and get help on IRC, and we can make incremental
improvements to their experience faster than we can build a new tool from
scratch. Few newbies fail hard at IRC. The basics are similar to texting
and private instant messaging software. Let's improve the newbie user
experience.
Pine
On Aug 11, 2014 1:48 PM, "Nathan" <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Newbies are going to fail hard at IRC. Pretty
much all of the questions
Seb
poses for a built-in newbie chat still exist with a built-in Freenode
interface, with the addition of a complicated and often difficult (not to
mention culturally... unique) environment. Much better to think along the
lines of the Teahouse, but live. You can jump into a chat queue, and
people
who want to help chat with you, and you can close the chat whenever you
want, and you can't contact people outside of the queue using chat.
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