That's exactly my point, Pine. This kind of inside-baseball geekery is
so much Choctaw to the ordinary new editor we are trying to recruit
and retain, people more likely to be using Pinterest or Skype or
Ravelry to communicate with peers and mentors.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You might be surprised how widely and how much
Freenode is used for open
source projects. The Blender main and dev channels were even more active
than English Wikipedia's equivalents when I visited a few days ago.
Pine
On Aug 2, 2014 6:38 PM, "Michael J. Lowrey" <orangemike(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
IRC is almost embarrassingly old technology; Wikimedia Foundation
projects are the only place I've seen it mentioned in the last five
years or more.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
We already have #wikipedia-en-help which is
remarkably good for a
volunteer
help project. Links to join that IRC channel could be offered in
multiple
places. Other languages may have similar channels.
Pine
On Aug 2, 2014 8:42 AM, "Jeremy Baron" <jeremy(a)tuxmachine.com> wrote:
On Aug 2, 2014 11:01 AM, "LtPowers" <LtPowers_Wiki(a)rochester.rr.com>
wrote:
> And then there could be a little chat window allowing real-time
> communication while the editor walks through her first edit.
[originally didn't realize who you were replying to… also haven't read
the
whole thread yet]
That is technically feasible. Maybe would have new implications for
privacy (including WMF privacy policy). Unless the realtime chats were
publicly logged. (then same privacy as existing teahouse, etc)
Essentially would be a more interactive version of teahouse? (i.e.
shorter
wait for a reply and you're paired with someone that's known to be
available
at that moment) would be a part of teahouse?
How would you staff it? Shifts?
Anyway, that does nothing for the case Kathleen describes. 25 people
(20f:5m) in a class and everyone getting that introduction to all
things
wiki. Then 7 stay active for a year including all the men. (and only 2
of
the 20 women)
I'm leaning towards thinking we as a community should (for now) focus
more
on the retention gap than the recruitment gap. Then we're not
recruiting
people just to (mostly) lose them in a month or two. But would be
interested
to hear thoughts on that from someone with a more rigorous analysis.
-Jeremy (jeremyb)
P.S.
http://www.onthemedia.org/story/31-race-swap-experiment/
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