Hi TheHelpfulOne,
Thanks so much for testing Echo today, and for reporting on your experience with user
rights!
I am also experiencing problems with the user right notification with this release, even
though it worked well for me earlier. You should be getting notifications both when a user
right is added and removed, as outlined in this feature requirement:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Feature_requirements#User_rights
We will investigate this issue tomorrow. Thanks for bringing it up!
Regarding your other question about user preferences, each notification category can be
set independently, as described here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo/Feature_requirements#Receive_Notificatio…
However, system notifications like user right changes cannot be dismissed, because we
believe they are too important. Besides user rights, this also includes the welcome and
get started messages in this first release.
The other notification where preferences are limited is 'talk page messages',
which now can only be turned off for email notifications, not for web notifications
(because we believe they are too important to dismiss on the web).
Please let us know if this general plan works for you, or if you recommend any changes. I
am sure this issue will be discussed again once we deploy on en-wiki, but we are starting
to freeze features so we can have our first release in early April. ;o)
Cheers,
Fabrice
On Mar 26, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Thehelpfulone wrote:
Hi all,
I've been playing around with Echo on
MediaWiki.org and noticed that in my
preferences I can configure a number of different notifications. (See
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo)
I've also tested the User Right notifications that were just deployed and whilst you
receive an email when you have a user right added to your account, you don't currently
get one when a user right is removed from your account.
That's probably an oversight, but from what I've been told the option to opt out
from any email notifications intentionally isn't available so as to reduce the number
of preferences for users to configure. Another justification is that a user is unlikely to
have their user rights changed too often, so email traffic should be minimal.
This seems reasonable, but for future notifications, how are we going to decide whether
something is worth a preference or not? I'm thinking that anything that technically
affects your editing, e.g. a notification that you've been blocked or renamed (if Echo
supports that in the future) would be something that probably shouldn't be
opt-out-able.
Can anyone think of any other notifications that should not be opt-out-able (or does
anyone think that all notifications should be individually opt-out-able?)
--
Thehelpfulone
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