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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:27:09 -0500
From: vahid(a)wikimediaecuador.org
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education Digest, Vol 37, Issue 21
Could you please share a link where the news on Serbia's Ministry of education
including the use of Wiki tools was published? (in English, French or Spanish). I
can't find any.
Thanks,
Vahid.
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1. Re: Integration Wikipedia into primary and secondary schools
in Serbia (Mina Theofilatou)
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:08:02 +0300
From: "Mina Theofilatou" <theoth(a)otenet.gr>
To: "Wikimedia Education" <education(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Integration Wikipedia into primary
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And an encyclopedia we should add. That's probably the best argument I've ever
heard on this issue.
Mina
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From: Andrew Leung
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Integration Wikipedia into primary and secondary
schools in Serbia
One counter-argument that you can make is that a dictionary used in school would have
some dirty words that are not appropriate for school children, yet you don't see those
definitions being blacked out by permanent marker or having the entire page ripped out
because it contained those words.
Andrew
"Fill the world with children who care and things start looking up."
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:21:49 +0200
From: gabriel(a)thullen.com
To: education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Integration Wikipedia into primary and secondary
schools in Serbia
Like I said before, great job for both Israel and Serbia !
There is one very important issue that we (as WM Chapters) need to address, now that
Wikipedia editing will be part of the official school curriculum. How do we answer
teachers or parents raising concerns about the so-called "adult" material found
on Wikipedia ? Some of it is downright porn, and we (as Chapters) have to be able to
answer these concerns.
[[:fr:Catégorie:Position sexuelle]] = [[:en:Category:Sex positions]] = other
interwikis
or
Commons: Category:Wiki-Sexuality Images
The Geneva education department has an Internet filter that blocks some of the articles
on the English wiki, for example
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingering_(sexual_act) is blocked,
but does not filter the French wiki
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doigtage. Obviously, the web
filter companies are US (aka English speaking), so they may or may not filter other
language Wikipedia pages. What we absolutely should avoid is this type of web filtering,
and certainly not such filtering done by separate countries.
Please note that I have always been opposed to censorship in general and opposed to
censoring Wikimedia in particular. The issue has been raised a few times over the past few
years, and I have always been able to provide adequate answers to the parents or school
officials. But now that Wikipedia editing is a part of the official curriculum, these
questions need a more "official" answer as well. Information should be freely
available to all, even so-called "adult" information. As a school teacher using
the web in class, I have to keep a watch on the web sites the students browse and discuss
with them how to deal with inappropriate web sites that slip through the filters. I do the
same when my students start surfing on sex-ed related Wikipedia articles...
I can just imagine the uproar in Israel when one or the other of the more conservative
religious groups finds out the kind of articles young students are subjected to in
class... I say that for Israel, but the same uproar will be possible in some of the Swiss
Cantons when Wikipedia editing becomes an official part of their curriculum (each Canton
has its own curriculum, some Cantons include religious education, some do not, and so on).
We need, at the very least, a set of arguments we can use to defend Wikipedia. For the
moment, nobody has said anything, probably because adults are usually not very curious.
Our kids, on the other hand, tend to explore a lot more...
Anyway, that was some food for thought. I am looking forward to learning about how you
will cope with that kind of issue, I know that the same problem might arise some day here
in Switzerland.
Gabe
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Vojtěch Dostál <vojtech.dostal(a)wikimedia.cz>
wrote:
Below is my Wednesday e-mail which was denied from the conversation because I sent it
from an incorrect adress:
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Congratulations to Israel and Serbia!
Now comes the tough job for you, though! You have to prove to the public & to the
teachers that Wikipedia is actually worth having in the school curriculum. The worst
scenario is teachers and parents going crazy about the latest government's invention.
You should really make Wikipedia as beneficial to the students as possible, and you also
need to prepare the community for an enormous workload!
Not an easy job, but worth working for!
Good luck both of you, and I will be looking forward to the first results.
Vojtěch Dostál
vice-chair
Wikimedia Czech Republic
2014-06-11 8:52 GMT+02:00 Oona Castro <oonacastro(a)gmail.com>om>:
excellent news! congratulations!
Did you guys see Israel is also to get Wikipedia included in the curriculum of
public schools? Sorry for crossposting in case it has been shared here:
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=18059
I'm really excited to hear and learn more about these initiatives, though
I'm really concerned about our limitations in the Brazilian education system.
Oona
On 11 June 2014 03:42, Nurunnaby Chowdhury <nh(a)nhasive.com> wrote:
Wow..excellent news Mile!
Congratulations..
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Shani <shani.even(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Great news, Mile!
Looking forward to seeing you in London and hear some more, :-)
Shani.
On 11 Jun 2014 01:31, "Jens Best" <jens.best(a)wikimedia.de>
wrote:
That's really great news. Congratulations to all people involved in
preparing and realizing this important success.
best regards
Jens Best
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2014-06-10 23:13 GMT+02:00 Mile Kiš <milens(a)vikimedija.org>rg>:
Hello everyone!
I am honored to inform you that several months of integrating Wikipedia
into primary and secondary schools in Serbia has finally paid off!
After the Ministry has prescribed that from September 2014 all students of
the second year of secondary school curriculum must study wiki tools, Institute for the
Improvement of knowledge and education has included a course on Wikipedia in its catalog
of programs of continuous professional development of teachers, professors and other
school personnel. We got accreditation for two years. Not a lot applicants got
accreditation.
This course will start in December.
first challenge we successfully crossed :) next will come.
I started writing blog post about this and hope it will be ready on 20
June.
If you have some questions I will be happy to answer you :)
Mile Kiš
Vikimedija Srbije -
rs.wikimedia.org -
00381 (0)60 7 454 772
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ljudskom znanju. To je ono na čemu mi radimo."
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