Hi all,
I subscribed to that mailing list since its beginning, but didn't get
involved in it yet. I've just checked about all the previous messages ;-)
I am a French wikipedian, and would like to tell you about a pretty old
project: a wiki encyclopedia designed for children.
It seems that this list mainly focus on Wikipedia-editing in higher
education and to a lesser extent, offline content from Wikipedia for
children, with the "Wikipedia for Schools" selection.
However, I noticed this message:
Le 20/04/2011 03:31, Nikhil Sheth a écrit :
The 2008/09 edition of Wikipedia for Schools is very
good, but also
limited in that it has only 5500+ articles (contrast with Wikipedia en
latest selection that has 45000+) and many times topics we need aren't
there.
(...)
I got Okawix and downloaded Simple Wikipedia package
for offline -
it's got many articles in simpler language and can be very useful for
lower-age children. But it's uncensored and so unusable. Is it
possible to start a simple wikipedia project to collect the
for-schools articles, or better yet just filter out inappropriate ones?
The idea of a equivalent of Wikipedia for children was discussed in
particular in 2005-2006 on this page :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids
Although it had no continuation as a Wikimedia project, wikis with such
a feature were launched first in Dutch: WikiKids
<http://wikikids.wiki.kennisnet.nl/Hoofdpagina>; in french a few month
later: Vikidia <http://fr.vikidia.org/> (article on Wikipedia
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikidia>) and then in Spanish Vikidia in
spanish <http://es.vikidia.org/>. I opened Vikidia.
WikiKids and Vikidia in French are doing well and are quite alike in
size and activity, whereas Vikidia in Spanish doesn't make it so well.
On Vikidia in French, we currently have a guest-book opened, and the
comments left on it
<http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Livre_d%27or/Automne_2011> are quite
encouraging.
Children say they appreciate the article to be more readable for them
than on Wikipedia, their main reserve being that some article are not
developed enough, or that there isn't articles on every subject they
would like to know about... They clearly expect (and claim) some
substantial content, though it has to be easier than the wikipedia's
content.
We have yet a bit more than 10 000 articles in Vikidia in French, and
about 220 000 unique visitors a month.
This "Wikikids" question was mentioned again in the Wikimedia scope one
year ago there: meta:2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content: Part
Two#Recommendations: Controversial Text
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Wikimedia_Study_of_Controversial_Content:_Part_Two#Recommendations:_Controversial_Text>:
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/Because of the considerations outlined above, our recommendations
surrounding text in WMF projects are the following:
It is recommended:
(...)
3. That, however, the Foundation investigate the creation of a
"WikiJunior" version of the Wikipedias, aimed at children under the age
of 12, either as a stand-alone project or in partnership with existing
and appropriate educational institutions.
Explanations:
(...)
Recommendations 2 and 3
(...) Much more successful, in our opinion, is a project specifically
targeted to children, and to the quite different needs of children in
different age groups. Some projects of this nature have already been
begun in the WikiJunior section of WikiBooks,[3] but it is our feeling
that the scope of such a venture might necessitate the formation of
partnerships with institutions who have experience and resources already
devoted to this area./
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...to which I had this response on meta:User talk:Sj
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sj&oldid=2959503#Wikikids.2FVikidia>.
Another feature of WikiKids/Vikidia is of course that it let children be
involved in building the content, and does not "only" aim to produce and
offer content for children, for the same benefits that you can find in
Wikipedia-editing workshops for students. There is both some school
projects and volunteer children editing on Vikidia along with teenagers,
students and adult writers.
My question is of course: */why is there no equivalent in English yet
?/* ;-)
(And if you are Spanish speaker or if you know people that would be
interested in it, please tell them about
http://es.vikidia.org ; I would
be glad that there is new people involved in it, or even take it in charge.)
Greetings,
--
Mathias Damour
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