On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Guillaume Paumier<guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Samuel Klein<meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have never been comfortable with the proliferation of Wikimedia
lists. ComProj is one of the ones that I love in spirit and
principle, because it is an open project that is compatible with any
number of copies of itself. But I would find it much easier to
contribute to comproj-related initiatives if they were discussed on,
say, foundation-l and #wikimedia. You could start all of those
threads with [comproj] if you wanted.
You're pointing to the wrong issue. The issue is not that "people
don't contribute to Comproj activities because they're discussed on a
dedicated list / IRC channel". The issue is that "Comproj is mostly
dead because the foundation staff doesn't provide any guidance to
volunteer groups such as Comproj". Comproj has been very successful
for short-term, specific tasks where their help was requested on the
list (the PR cleanup inventory for instance).
Point taken.
The bottom line is that while professionalizing
itself, the foundation
has slowly been forgetting their volunteer basis (and the awesome
support they can provide).
I agree that this is the proximal issue (though Sue from time to time
says just the right things, as when testing the speed efficacy of
OTRS). And this should be addressed soon, since the
professionalization is happening more rapidly than the rate of
community growth (and some professional volunteers are leaving).
I stand by my other point, that [assuming it had things to do] ComProj
could be much larger / have much more visibility if it were not
contributing to another problem, which is fragmentation of centers for
discussion / planning / notification.
We do not yet suffer from too much shared information about
foundation-level projects that are of short-term importance. Until
that happens, we should consolidate and broadcast more widely.
SJ