Re: [Commons-l] Commons-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4

Send Commons-l mailing list submissions to commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to commons-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at commons-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Commons-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 100 years old images (Yann Forget) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:01:39 +0200 From: Yann Forget <yann(a)forget-me.net> Subject: [Commons-l] 100 years old images To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <482AD4A3.6010304(a)forget-me.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Hello, Recently a photo of Alain-Fournier from 1904 was deleted because "no proof of PD" [1]. I don't understand the rationale being this decision. AFAIK, we have accepted such images upto now, why do we refuse them now? I think we need to get this clear once and for all. Seeing what was the life expectancy 100 years ago (about 50-55 years in USA / Europe [2] [3]), a limit of 100 years seems reasonable to me. The figures I found are actually lower than I expected (60 years). While we accept a lot of content which is much less safe than this, it seems unreasonable to me to refuse this kind of images. It is in the public domain in USA anyway. Rocket000 said [4] "I think it's very safe to assume it's PD or can be treated like it is, but that's different than allowing it on Commons." That's exactly the point: if it is very safe to assume it's PD, why should we refuse them? Why setting different standards? This goes against our mission. Regards, Yann [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Alain_fou… [2] http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005140.html [3] http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/55/6/1196S.pdf [4] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#100_years_old_images -- http://www.non-violence.org/ | Site collaboratif sur la non-violence http://www.forget-me.net/ | Alternatives sur le Net http://fr.wikisource.org/ | Biblioth?que libre http://wikilivres.info | Documents libres ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l End of Commons-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4 ****************************************