all up it consumed about 7 months of discussion see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:2008_main_page_redesign_proposa…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:2008_main_page_redesign_proposa…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:2008_main_page_redesign_proposa…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:2008_main_page_redesign_proposa…
the proposal first gained sufficient momentum to be formalised in July 2008
by December in had slowed down many people had lost interest or just drifted
away over the holidays, in febraury the discussion just stopped the result
was no change to the main page. Every week editors would drift through
questions would be asked designs would be propogated and agreement would
appear to ensue, then the designs would be reduced to a couple of choices a
poll would commence then it would be follow by a poll as to how long the
poll should run.after a couple of designs were chosen more question(mostly
repeats) would be asks and those designs would be thrown away the process
would be repeated.
There was straw polls, the was an RFC, there was a straw poll to have an
RFC. What all the discussion came down was that people had their own wants
and barrows to push, there was no clear objective, there was no leadership
in the process, there much discussion about goals in fact they were changing
so fast at one stage there was two ongoing discussion about goals. Basically
if you want to stop a process reaching a result via consensus increase the
number of people involve, the leason here is
- to keep the group small
- have a clear objective
- be bold
to quote user:Auburnpilot *After seven months of back-and-forth nonsense,
the only proposed changes are so insignificant that bringing them to the
attention of the wider community would be utterly pointless. It's a shame so
many editors have already wasted their time on this thing, but keeping it
going will not change the fact that it was a wasted effort. It was a nice
idea in theory, but the execution killed it.
*Compar to that what has occured in the last week
- a couple of tweaks have been done
- a suggestion was made, it been created, tested, tweaked -- it could be
added now
except for those reading this list these changes would probably go
unnoticed, because most people arent interested in the main page until a big
deal is made of it. If you need a proccess to emulate for changing the main
look at how the vector skin was done and how successful it introduction has
been. There was no big voting process for the upload form changes, as such
no drama.
*
*
On 19 May 2010 00:12, Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi,
Le lundi 17 mai 2010 18:51:54, Gnangarra a écrit :
oh please not another main page contest, havent we been able to learn
from
the experience on en.wikipedia about main page
redesigns
Not everyone is from en.wikipedia; but I'm sure you'll be happy to share
your
experience.
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