[Wiktionary-l] Adopting OmegaWiki as Wikimedia project

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Hi,
Omegawiki might be great, ok, I don't put that into question.
But there are reasons why /some/ people did continue working in Wiktionary.
It does not contain flexion tables, genders etc. and I personally find it
confusing.
If You close them You will lose people starting with me.

E.

2010/7/19 Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com>

> (Just poking foundation-l, please continue with discussion at
> wiktionary-l, or, better, at Meta [1])
>
> During Wikimania I asked Gerard Meijssen would he be willing to give
> OmegaWiki to Wikimedia. He said that he doesn't have anything against
> it: software is free, content is free. More precisely, he told to me
> "Take it!" :)
>
> My initial idea was that it would be the best to replace all
> Wiktionaries with OmegaWiki. However, the last day of Wikimania I was
> talking with one Swedish guy who is working on Swedish Wiktionary. He
> has complained that philologists like more open form for writing
> dictionary. Thus, my suggestion is to adopt OmegaWiki as one of
> Wiktionaries, probably as http://wiktionary.org/, similarly to the
> multilingual Wikisource.
>
> And, of course, before possible adoption we need discussion and some
> software improvements of Wikidata extension.
>
> [1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Adopt_OmegaWiki
>
> * * *
>
> As multilingual projects are not in the scope of the [[Language
> committee]], before the implementation (or not) of the idea, community
> should discuss about it.
>
> [http://www.omegawiki.org/ OmegaWiki] is a formal multilingual
> dictionary based on MediaWiki extension
> [[:mw:Extension:Wikidata|Wikidata]].
>
> No matter would it be the only Wiktionary or it would be just one of
> the Wiktionaries, OmegaWiki would raise quality of Wiktionaries. At
> the other side, the project would get much more attention as a
> Wikimedia project.
>
> Wikidata extension should be improved (from user experience and
> linguistic points of view) before implementation as Wikimedia project.
>
> [[User:GerardM|Gerard Meijssen]], the founder of OmegaWiki project,
> doesn't have anything against adopting it as a Wikimedia project.
>
> == Advantages and disadvantages of adopting OmegaWiki ==
>
> === Advantages ===
> * It is possible to create one billion entries per Wiktionary: All
> synthetic languages could import at least ~10M of words, but probably
> more if all common phrases are counted. Thus, it means that we need
> just 100 synthetic or polysynthetic languages to create one billion
> entries per Wiktionary. This is very large number and while it is
> possible to keep technically one such project, presently it is hardly
> possible to keep a number of projects with more than billion of
> entries.
> * It is structured formally.
> * ...
>
> === Disadvantages ===
> * Philologists like more open form for dictionaries.
> * OmegaWiki is distant from the wiki principle. Software fixes should
> make it closer.
> * ...
>
> == How to adopt OmegaWiki ==
> * Instead of all Wiktionaries.
> * As www.wiktionary.org, like www.wikisource.org is the place for
> multilingual Wikisource.
> * As mul.wiktionary.org (ISO 639-5 code for multilingual entities)
> * ...?
>
> == Minimums for adopting OmegaWiki ==
>
> === If OmegaWiki replaces all Wiktionaries ===
> * Evaluation of software by linguists and adding necessary linguistic
> features.
> * Fixing bugs in software if needed.
> * Adding all needed features to satisfy philological needs.
> * Importing all data from Wiktionaries.
>
> === If OmegaWiki becomes one of the Wiktionaries ===
> * Evaluation of software by linguists and adding necessary linguistic
> features.
> * Fixing bugs in software if needed.
>
> == Licensing ==
>
> OmegaWiki licences are CC-BY and GFDL. It is a bit of pleonasm, as
> CC-BY is a subset of GFDL (and CC-BY-SA as well).
>
> * Licensing should probably stay CC-BY, not CC-BY-SA. There is a legal
> problem of copyrighting words, phrases, sentences and definitions,
> which mean that it would be probably better to leave the least
> restrictive license as the OmegaWiki license.
> * ...
>
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