[Wiktionary-l] RE: [Wikitech-l] Why use so many (small) messages)

[Gerard.Meijssen]

Ray,
There are issues. And as I have mentioned this is a system being developped. Nothing is carved into stone yet. You state that it is my "pet project" and indeed I among others try to nurture it to become better. As to your criticism,  I do acknowledge that several issues have to be resolved. This is consistent with something that is under construction.

It would however be foolish not to respond to questions of why things need _many_ messages. That is exactly why we have mailinglists; to inform about what is what and why and how things are evolving. Again, en:wiktionary is not the only one. The issues that can be resolved should be resolved. But it is not a zero sum situation; the benefits must be weighed against drawbacks. At this moment people can cooperate and look at what this way of working produces. I am aware of issues and I am working towords resolutions.

Only stating that this system is not finished/ready is not helpfull as it is not a finished product yet.

Gerard

-----Original Message-----
From: wikitech-l-bounces at Wikipedia.org
[mailto:wikitech-l-bounces at Wikipedia.org]On Behalf Of Ray Saintonge
Sent: woensdag 16 juni 2004 10:38
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Why use so many (small) messages)


Gerard.Meijssen wrote:

> LS,
> Tim Starling wondered why we want to use so many messages in 
> wiktionary. The reason is that the same article can be copied to 
> another wiktionary (that contains the native content for the same 
> messages). This will result in a correct article for the word. As an 
> example the word [[Nederlands]], [[Engels]],  [[English]] can be found 
> in the Japanese wiktionary.
>
> Another example is when a translation has been added to a 
> participating wiktionary, this translation can be added to all other 
> participating wiktonaries. Yes, a bot needs to be written to do that, 
> but that is the intention. Example; I have added _loads_ of new 
> translations for the word [[English]] and [[Dutch]] on the 
> en:wiktionary. (Originating from Timwi's website and then nl:wiktionary)
>
This system of messages is Gerard's pet project with which he has 
carried on despite some serious questioning at Wiktionary talk:MediaWiki 
custom messages 
<http://en.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wiktionary_talk:MediaWiki_custom_messages&redirect=no> 


We don't need all those messages.  The potential for Gerard's scheme 
interfering with the efforts of others is too high.  A bot would only 
make things worse.

Ec

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