2006/8/24, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com:
On 8/24/06, Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com wrote:
It wouldn't solve anything. The category "British rockbands" would have "Subcategories of this category should be British rockbands" and
I would have thought subcats of "British rock bands" should more specific categories of British rock bands, or British rock bands categorised by city etc. Or maybe even "Defunct British rock bands" etc etc. Of course, *articles* in the category should be actual bands...
Yes, that's what YOU would have thought, and what I would have thought. But someone who wants to put Category:Beatles in Category:British rockbands is going to think differently. And act in that way. And we can say "you should not put categories about rock bands in here", but that's just the same argument that we previously had about [[Category:The Beatles]]. There's nothing won by putting such a text on the category page, because someone who is of the opinion that [[Category:The Beatles]] should be in, is just going to put a text there so that it can go in, and someone who is of the opinion that it should not be in, is going to put a text there so that it cannot go in. Only difference is the place where you get the edit war.
category "Beatles" would have "subcategories of this category should be closely related to the Beatles" - or in my example, countries would say ''Subcategories of this category should be countries" and Germany would say "Subcategories of this category should be categories with German topics"
You're very negative about your fellow editors :)
Yes, but also realistic. Someone is not going to change their mind just because they have to write it down somewhere else.
Because a category, to me, is a way to find related pages. And that is easiest with a certain size, say between 10 and 40 pages in the
Remember how I was saying "subcategories don't work"? Here's why. In theory, there is absolutely no reason you'd want one category of 50 articles rather than 5 subcats of 10 articles each. It's simply that the MediaWiki software is particularly bad at browsing categories. (Mostly because we don't know what subcategories actually mean.)
Well, I want solutions that work now, not solutions that would work if the code were changed as well as the policies.
Well, that's one thing. Another would be putting [[Germany]] in [[Category:Countries]] and taking [[Category:Germany]] out of it.
That seems to me to be the right thing to do. If anything, Category:Germany should be in "Category:Country categories" or something.
That's your opinion, and mine. Not that of those who have a say about the category structure on the Dutch Wikipedia.