On 21/08/06, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Not so trivial. People underestimate JS power. Many of this applets could be probably done in javascript. I have seen plenty of webs using java or flash for a damned background-changing button link! Why should i use such de-facto standard?? Why should i have it installed? I use a WEB browser, expecting html. ''Happily'' some people are so kind of including the 'skip intro' link _into_ the object (making it unusable if you see no object). Now, i have no problem on using Java for issues where 'a program' is needed, like webchats or maths simulations. This proposed use seems acceptable. What
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Oh dear lord, ask for a web zealot and get one. It's like the buses.
Anyway, the whole point of the thread was for a user to ask us about something.
"We would like to use Java applets, etc. where appropriate in Wikiversity, because we think that practical examples will help illustrate some of the concepts we're describing."
"Would it be possible for us to think about means of integrating such content into the wikis and enabling this on Wikimedia projects?"
Discuss, don't bitch about "zomg use JavaScript" instead; that's as bad as all the half-assed shouting about rewriting MediaWiki in brainfuck.
You did illustrate a reasonable objection to the problem, but it was surrounded in a load of incoherent gibberish ranting.
Rob Church