[Wikisource-l] future of the Wikisource

[ThomasV]

Instead of complaining, why are you not taking action? it is too
easy to complain about things not being done when you can do
them yourself. I do not see any reason why you could not do that.

Requesting the creation of a subdomain is very easy now. It used
to be much more difficult in the past. If I remember well :

1 - we had to organize a vote in order to convince the board that a
partition was the will of the community. a power-hungry bureaucrat
was opposing it.

2 - thousands of pages on ws.org were not categorized in languages,
I had to run a bot doing that, and its results had to be manually checked.

3 - the function Special:Import did not exist, so we had to ask developers
to hack the sql database. at the same time some users began filling their
newly created subdomains with copy-pasted pages and conflicting names.
a real mess ensued.

it seems to me that those difficulties are now gone. so what are you 
waiting
for ? please stop whining and go to irc if you want to request a subdomain.

Thomas



jkbwiki wrote:
> Just some remarks to the art of discussion and decision here.
>  
> In March/April there were some mail concernig the wikisource, the 
> future of wikiosurce (multilingual, wikisource.org) and new subdomains.
>  
> Although I work in wikisource.org since 2004 and although I am an 
> admin there since 2005, I saw and I read some points the first time in 
> my wiki life. There was no word of announcement or discussion of this 
> matter on the pages of the multilingual wikisource, never, although it 
> concerns this domain.
>  
> So, the proposals, that everything what has to do with new subdomains 
> should be put in the hands of somebody else, but not the wikisource.
>  
> Nice. The multilingual wikisource did in the past manage the creation 
> of new subdomains, after we had a contact to the users there. Now, 
> there is a not nearly specified proposal, some incubation domain will 
> do. Fine. Fine, if it works.
>  
> But doesn't seem to work. The discussion ended, nobody concerns, 
> nobody tries to do something. And the Tamil wikisource request and 
> another one are still waiting for a solution. Since months, since 
> nearly one year. Do you think that the users are so strong and so good 
> prepared fot the shit here, that they will wait another half a year 
> and then start to work again??? I am sure, we lost not only some 
> users, but we lost two subdomains in the last four weeks.
>  
> I tried to keep the domain of wikisource.org running in the past, but 
> now I must resignate. Some people announce some new fine ideas, they 
> take the competences away, without saying who will do it in the 
> future. I am not like to act there as a idiot, I am not one.
>  
> You will have to recognize, that such acting leads to a loss of users 
> and subdomains. You will have to recognize that the wikisource 
> subdomains have to learn something else than the wikipedia or 
> wictionary subdomains. Obviously, yaou have to recognize this in the 
> future.
>  
> It is not a good feeling to me to write these sentences after three 
> years of wotking here, but the development of the WS did hurt  me.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> -jkb-
>  
>  
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