[Wikiquality-l] Working on blame tool

Luca de Alfaro luca at dealfaro.org
Sat Oct 17 22:37:47 UTC 2009


The implementation we have in WikiTrust is that when you click on a word of
a version, you are sent to the diff where the word originates.

We have two demos up, and we are adding other Wikipedias to these demos as
our servers permit...

To see the demos, go to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/11087and install the
WikiTrust add-on.  Then, you can browse the Italian or
Portuguese Wikipedia, and it should work (it.wikimedia.org and
pt.wikimedia.org).

Some notes on this demo:

It is slow, because there is some back-and-forth between UCSC and Wikimedia
Foundation servers.  If this were running at the WMF, it would be way
faster.

Again, as it is not running at the Foundation, we are not notified of new
edits.  So sometimes, we don't have an analysis for the revision you
request.  In that case, we fetch what we need and we analyze the revision.
You should be able to see the results of the analysis after ten seconds or
so.

Luca

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Brian J Mingus
<Brian.Mingus at colorado.edu>wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM, jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com <
> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was not able to find any examples.
>> I think that such a blame and trust tool belongs in git, not in
>> wikipedia because there are many other usages for it.
>> mike
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM, John Erling Blad
>> <john.erling.blad at jeb.no> wrote:
>> > There is a student at UiO looking into alternate trust coloring schemes.
>> > John Erling /jeblad
>> >
>> > jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com wrote:
>> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Platonides <platonides at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> FYI,
>> >>>> I am working on a blame tool for wikipedia
>> >>>>
>> http://fmtyewtk.blogspot.com/2009/10/mediawiki-git-word-level-blaming-one.html
>> >>>> thanks,
>> >>>> mike
>> >>>>
>> >>> Importing an article history into git for using git blame doesn't seem
>> >>> like a good method...
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Well importing it just for blame is bad. I agree. I read about the
>> wikiblame.
>> >>
>> >> my purpose is to port the wikipedia over to git...
>> >>
>> >> mike
>>
>
>
> So far all of the implementations of blame tools for the full  history dump
> of a wiki do not have the features of an ideal blame tool.
>
> Given an arbitrary string of text an ideal blame tool can scan Wikipedia's
> entire history - and ideally the history of all WMF wikis - and tell you the
> authors of that text.
>
> The design of such a system is essentially a search engine where each
> revision is a page with an associated author. The engine works iteratively,
> first finding all page blobs (where a page blob contains all text across all
> revisions for an article) that contain all of the words being searched for,
> and then iteratively working forwards in time on the revisions of that
> article in an effort to find the earliest authors. This isn't a complete
> spec, but it gives the general idea.
>
>
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