[Wikipedia-l] About creating a new language on Wikipedia

[Berto 'd Sera]

Hoi,

All you have to do is go here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages 

And fill a request. Bear in mind that the 4 factors that are going to be
decisive are:
1) An existing ISO 639-3 code for the language (no language mix allowed)
2) A good number of native speakers supporting the project
3) A good performance in the incubator
4) A localized UI for your edition

Feel free to contact us directly at any time for more info/support

Berto 'd Sera
Personagi dl'ann 2006 per l'arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojaotri)
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rodolfo M Vega
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:53 PM
To: wikipedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] About creating a new language on Wikipedia

Hi Berto:
Yes! We will have a Maya wikipedia quite soon. It is a matter of time. 
We, Yucatan Mayans, Carnegie Mellon University and Unicef-Mexico are 
working in this matter; soon Mayans will request the relevant 
information to start.
Rodolfo

Berto 'd Sera wrote:
> Hoi,
>
> This is actually a "must". No foreign "expert" can create words in any
> language. In that case you're much better off by importing them as they
are.
> We are not very keen to release wikies for the use of students in foreign
> languages. All wikies are for natives first, foreigners are welcome, but
> designing a UI is none of their business.
>
> I'll love to see a Maya wiki :)
>
> Berto 'd Sera
> Personagi dl'ann 2006 per l'arvista american-a Time (tanme tuti vojaotri)
> http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1569514,00.html
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikipedia-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rodolfo M
Vega
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:14 PM
> To: wikipedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] About creating a new language on Wikipedia
>
> The "language invention" must be done by the native speakers of that 
> language. This is what native speakers of Amerindian languages are 
> fighting for, and are part of United Nations agreements and conventions 
> on language rights for native peoples. I am working with Maya, Mapuche 
> and Aymara, from the Americas, in this issue. Soon, they will ask to 
> have Wikipedia in their own language, including the interface, done by 
> themselves, and not by an "expert gringo". Is this possible based on 
> your "rules"?
> Rodolfo'
>
> Delirium wrote:
>   
>> Berto 'd Sera wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> The only requests I am receiving are about totally clearing from english
>>> other UIs. You might be surprised, but the highest pressure comes from
>>>       
> young
>   
>>> (15-20 y.o.) bilingual users, who are native or almost native in
english,
>>> too. It has nothing to do with liking english or not, it's about using a
>>> language for what it's meant to do: to deliver a clear message.
>>>
>>> The choice of words really depends on what's current in your language.
In
>>> our case even if the dominant culture has long become industrial and it
>>> would take you ages to find a horse anywhere, there still are lots of
>>> metaphores originating from the farmers' life. Sometimes their roots are
>>> incredibly old.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> This seems somewhat different than advertised.  Localizing an interface 
>> to a language means making it be *in that language*.  Coining new terms 
>> to use in the interface, even if based on other words in the language, 
>> does not make the interface in that language.  Rather, it makes it in a 
>> new language (or dialect, at least), invented at Wikipedia.
>>
>> "Purified" languages, in which loanwords are purged and replaced with 
>> neologisms based on "native" roots, are often created, and sometimes 
>> they succeed and sometimes they fail.  See [[en:Katharevousa]] for an 
>> example of a purified Greek that eventually more or less failed.  
>> Regardless of the merits of such a project, I don't think it appropriate 
>> for *us* to engage in such language-invention.
>>
>> -Mark
>>
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