[Wikipedia-l] About creating a new language on Wikipedia

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 07:46:17 UTC 2007


Hoi,
When a living language creates new concepts it is completely different from
the creation of extinct languages. I am not bothered by for instance
Cherokee finding a need for new vocabulary. I am bothered by this same need
for extinct languages.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 7/11/07, Roberto Bahamonde Andrade <chilotin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> However, there are many cases on communities can't avoid that "original
> research". Many American languages (Quechua, Náhuatl, Cherokee) haven't
> words for "edit", "talk page" or "internet", then is necessary find the
> form
> of say such concepts. One way to solve it is paraphrasis and another way
> is
> the borrowing of a word of English or Spanish and adapt it to phonetics of
> the language. No matter the way used, the community of Wikipedians had
> made
> original research.
>
> Bye.
>
> 2007/7/5, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hoi,
> > In the language committee we are not really happy with artificial
> > languages
> > or with languages long dead that are given a new lease of life because
> "we
> > can". In dead languages you have to do original research in order to be
> > able
> > to name the concepts that are modern and foreign to that language as we
> > know
> > it. Wikipedia is not about original research and you have to create new
> > words and in the process change the language in order to write an
> > encyclopaedia that is to be used in this day and age.
> > Thanks,
> >      Gerard
> >
> > On 7/5/07, Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Berto 'd Sera wrote:
> > > > Seriously, how would you manage? Do we call up the mobs to scream
> and
> > > swear
> > > > as we did before, or do we nominate 7 Valencian and 7 Catalan
> Knights
> > > and
> > > > make it a Royal Tournament? That's all the choice you're given, you
> > > know?
> > > >
> > > > You EITHER
> > > >    choose an external reference
> > > > OR
> > > >    choose yourself.
> > >
> > > If you're deferring to an external authority to avoid conflict, or to
> > > reduce workload, then that's fine. Just don't say you're doing it
> > because
> > > you want to follow the "no original research" policy. Most Wikipedia
> > > policies are common sense. NOR is probably the only one which would be
> > > disasterous if it were generalised to life outside Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > -- Tim Starling
> > >
> > >
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