[Wikipedia-l] Entries for deletion.... issues from the Third World

James Hare messedrocker at gmail.com
Tue Jan 9 11:28:48 UTC 2007


Aye, but verifiability also allows for third-party peer review.

On 1/9/07, J.L.W.S. The Special One <hildanknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Requiring verifiability creates systemic bias. To be more accurate, it
> enforces the systemic bias of existing references.
>
> On 1/9/07, Michael Billington <michael.billington at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 1/9/07, Lars Aronsson <lars at aronsson.se> wrote:
> > >
> > > Andre Engels wrote:
> > > > I guess I should not go into the examples, but in this case my
> opinion
> > > is
> > > > that 50,000 would be too high a limit,  I myself would be thinking
> of
> > > 2,000
> > > > or 5,000.
> > >
> > > Absolutely.  Perhaps for the U.S. and parts of Germany we are
> > > approaching full coverage of all places with 5,000 people.  But
> > > for India I doubt if we have covered all cities with 50,000.
> > > Nothing stops the limit from being set at 500 too.  But a lower
> > > limit could be questioned a lot more easily than a higher one.
> > > Then again, some places with 50,000 people are less notable than
> > > some very small places.  But if you can point to the fact that a
> > > place has 50,000 inhabitants (or was the birth places for a
> > > president), then it is a lot easier to defend its notability.
> > >
> >
> > On one side we have western places. For instance, Wikipedia has an
> article
> > about my town, political division and local member of parliament. My
> town
> > and surrounding ones (all of which have wiki articles) have a population
> of
> > 1,500 or so. Rambot has written articles about towns 1/10th of the size
> of
> > mine.
> >
> > However, whilst lists of Australian, German or US (and more) topics are
> > mostly blue links, there are lists populated almost entirely by red
> links,
> > such as [[List of Sudanese singers]]. Unfortunately, very few or no
> reliable
> > sources will probably be found to warrant articles about these singers
> (at
> > least not on the internet), and the only way to get coverage of a large
> > portion of them would be through original research (which we can't do
> > obviously), or to find print sources. So does anyone on this mailing
> list
> > happen to have access to archives for a Sudanese newspaper? It would be
> nice
> > if we could get more things like [[WP:AWNB]] for smaller countries, so
> we
> > can find people more local* who may very well be able to walk to a
> library
> > to find sources and add articles. That could work wonders for coverage
> :-)
> >
> > *And I may be a bit too ambitious in assuming we have editors from just
> > about every country
> >
> > Michael Billington
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>
> --
> Written with passion,
> J.L.W.S. The Special One
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