[Wikipedia-l] Serbo-Croatian wikipedia

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On 1/8/06, Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Ray Saintonge wrote:
> > If the situation had been my call at the beginning I would have had no
> > problem saying that we should have only a single Wikipedia to cover all
> > these, but it wasn't my call, and we need to cope with the reality in
> > front of us.  It is a fact that we have four projects, and none of them
> > suffer from a lack of interest and activity.  Nobody would benefit by
> > trying to undo the past.
> >
> > There is ample support for the notion that setting up the separate wikis
> > was a grave violation of NPOV,
>
> There's no support for that whatsoever, actually.
>
> These wikis were all in existence in the 2001-2002 era, apparently part of
> the
> first batch of bulk-created wikis made from a list of ISO 639 standard
> language
> codes:
> * http://sh.wikipedia.com/ (Serbo-Croatian)
> * http://sr.wikipedia.com/ (Serbian)
> * http://hr.wikipedia.com/ (Croatian)
>
> I have no doubt that whoever ran those bulk setups didn't read the whole
> list
> and wasn't aware that that particular combination of languages was
> present.
> Ascribing motives or claiming "a grave violation of NPOV" is simply
> absurd.
>
> Later, bs.wikipedia.org was added by request, on the basis that
> 1) our policy was to create wikis for any language with an ISO 639
> language
> code, on the assumption that an international standards body had a better
> handle
> on what's out there than us
> 2) it wasn't very fair or neutral to have Serbian and Croatian but *not* a
> Bosnian wiki.
>
> At some point the Serbo-Croatian one was shut down and articles copied to
> the
> others, on the basis that:
> 1) ISO 639 had rescinded the 'sh' code several years ago (in fact prior to
> the
> creation of that wiki, so an out of date list must have been used), so
> that wiki
> in fact was inconsistent with our language creation policy and probably
> would
> not have been created if anyone were looking at it explicitly
> 2) a number of people were strongly requesting that
>
> Later, at some point, someone reopened the Serbo-Croatian one, I'm not
> sure why.
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)


here is the page in question:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_permissions&oldid=146014#Serbo-croatian_Wikipedia

grtz, oscar

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