[Wikipedia-l] New request for Cantonese Wikipedia: vote at 29-6

[Phroziac]

Actually, Jimmy, aren't they to determine consensus, not build it?

On 9/10/05, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> Mark Williamson wrote:
> > If I hold a vote on the creation of a Wikipedia in Venetian, do I have
> > to inform wikiit-l? No. Would it be nessecary? Probably not.
> 
> Yes, that would be wise.  I can't think of any reason why *not* to
> inform them.
> 
> > In fact, it has. Just because I didn't heed YOUR suggestions doesn't
> > mean I suck.
> 
> No, you don't suck.  He didn't say that you suck, either.  Chill, man,
> it's WikiLove, ya know...
> 
> > 4) The lack of announcement was partially intentional. I felt that it
> > was most fair to send a message to wikipedia-l, and international
> > mailing list, and then to individual Cantonese-speaking users.
> 
> To me this sounds pretty much an unfair way to go about it.
> 
> >>One reason the final (sixth) GNAA VfD was accepted after several
> >>controversial rounds of voting was because of how professionally the
> >>vote was administered. We should learn from that.
> >
> >
> > And by "we", you mean "Node", right?
> 
> I think he means all of us.  This is a tough call, and therefore in
> order to generate widespread support throughout the entire community, a
> very professionally done vote is critical.
> 
> This is why I'm opposed to rampant voting on everything.  The only valid
> purpose for a vote in Wikipedia is actually as a *poll* which seeks to
> build community consensus.  Deliberately excluding some interested
> parties is a great way to "win" a vote, but it is not a great way to get
> buy-in from the entire community.
> 
> --Jimbo
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