[Wikipedia-l] Re: recipes

[Ashar Voultoiz]

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Anthere wrote:
> I discovered today that recipes are now legally deleted from the english 
> wikipedia where they are not welcome any more.
> 
> Still, I had the memory there was no clear agreement on doing so, and 
> for months, there was a sort of balance with removing all those of minor 
> dishes, while keeping those from typical ones.

Hello,

I guess things tend to change. Things that were acceptable some months
ago are no more accepted by the community.

> When I tried to make a policy on the topic, clearly, there was no 
> agreement. Neither to keep, neither to delete. Mostly two factions.
> 
> Today, I realised all had been deleted. I restored one and was 
> immediately reverted by Gentgeen (of course, he is the one who deleted 
> them) and he pointed to me a policy on "what Wikipedia is not".

Maybe you should add entries in a "Request to undelete" page instead of
abusing your sysop rights against the community choice (aka restauring a
page that got deleted with the approval of the community).

<snip>
> * why is it so that rules are written in the big book (what wikipedia is 
> not) which makes reference, while these rules are not widely agreed on 
> the project ? If not agreed but by a couple of bold people, should they 
> be used to revert the others ?

For me, if the community decide that receipe should be deleted, it's no
more about "a couple of bold people", but the community as a whole.

> I realised the recipes were not welcome any more at all today, because a 
> couple of french people wish to delete them as well on the french 
> wikipedia. And one of their arguments is that the english wikipedia 
> decided to delete them (and so, they must be right !).
> 
> I removed the rule as is now, and asked the editor who initially added 
> it to show me where this was supported initially.

I personally believe that receipes as they are should go in wikibooks
and have nothing to do with an encyclopedia. Having an history,
description, use of a dish is another matter and can fit well in the
encyclopedia. The receipe does not.

cheers,

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