[Wikipedia-l] Re: Seperate list to discuss issues related to languages

[Anthere]

Mark Williamson a écrit:
> Gerard, this list actually existed previously.
> 
> Assuming people like Jimbo, Anthere, and Angela would be subscribed to
> it, I don't see why important issues couldn't be discussed on it.

Hi Node.

I was definitly an activist in the *disappearance* of intl-l.
I would be most displeased to see it appear again.

However, if you convince enough people to restore it, that is fine by 
me. I am not sure I will read it very often though, and am not convinced 
at all I will be able to see the results of discussion over there as 
consensus because I do not expect many people to join it.

Generally, when lists are splitted too much, it results either in
* people not joining many lists, hence missing discussions. Unhappiness 
resulting from decisions taken by too small a group of people
* or people cc their mails to two or more lists, as they are not sure 
they reach all the good people by sending the mail to only one list. 
This confusion leads to the multiplication of mails.

The best I would recommand is to keep the number of lists low, and to 
use gmane to read your mail instead than receiving it in your mail box. 
Anyone not interested in a discussion thread can easily avoid reading 
the whole thread.

My opinion.

Anthere

> People who are interested in contributing to a consensus are welcome
> to join, obviously. If they don't, that's their choice, as is the case
> with any consensus reached at Wikipedia.
> 
> So if there is a consensus on intlwiki-l and it isn't opposed by the
> board, I don't see what's wrong with it having effect on real issues
> (ie, splitting Wikis, merging Wikis, script conversion, new language
> Wikis, problems arising in interlanguage situations).
> 
> If you are concerned that you won't be a part of this consensus, then
> you are welcome to join this list (if it is in fact created).
> 
> The purpose of this isn't to create some place where everybody will
> agree with me (on the contrary, there are quite a few people who would
> definitely be interested in the list that probably wouldn't agree with
> my opinion a lot of the time), but rather to solve the problem of
> people getting e-mails that they don't want.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 01:18:27 +0100, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerardm at myrealbox.com> wrote:
> 
>>Mark,
>>On the one hand I favour the idea of a seperate mailing list about
>>languages and all the huha that goes with it. It would mean that some
>>people could talk to each other endlessly. FINE.
>>
>>However, however much is discussed there, what does it amount to except
>>for things having been discussed on this list. What do you expect that a
>>"consensus" reached on this list means outside of this list ?? The
>>wikipedia-l is about issues that transcend the concerns of any
>>particular wikipedia project and therefore things NOT discussed on this
>>mailinglist and/or on META do not have enough exposure to amount to
>>something that signify a relevant and adequate consensus.
>>
>>So, have this list if you must but do consider its worth.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>   GerardM
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