[Wikipedia-l] Re: Quenya language request, and Chinese Wikipedia again

[Felix Wan]

Pablo:

Thank you very much for your information.  Where can I find the technical
details about setting up the mediawiki software?

I also remember that somewhere on the list someone mentioned they started
something on Wikicities to test out the feasibility of a new language
Wikipedia and then apply to move to the main Wikipedia.  What is the
policy of Wikicities and how possible is it to test out a project over
there?  Can anyone help?

Felix Wan


On Thu, February 24, 2005 5:54 am, Pablo Saratxaga said:
> Kaixo!
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:24:44PM -0800, Felix Wan wrote:
>
>> Mark, once again I appreciate your support.  I don't think we will get
>> the blessing of the community to start a Cantonese Wikipedia soon, but it
>> does not mean that it cannot be done later.
>
> My advice will be that you (or someone else interested in a Cantonese
> wikipedia) just get the mediawiki software and install it on a server 
> somewhere to try out, so it can be seen if the project is viable or not; 
> if it is, then moving it to wikipedia servers would be no problem, if it 
> is not, at least we will know.
>
> That is how Min-nan and Walloon wikipedias started; for the Walloon one,
> I wasn't myself sure it would work or not, that was actually the reason
> why I tried it on my own machine first; and I had almost given up after
> 2-3 months, when someone else appeared and revived it. When there were
> some 1.000 articles moving it to wikipedia was no problem (even in the
> extreme case were the database couldn't be imported, copying the articles
> by hand wouldn't be an impossible task either). Yes, the Walloon
> wikipedia is still small, and will continue to be small, as the total
> population of speakers is small (about 600.000) and there is absolutely
> no official support for the language nor any presence on mass media;
> however, with some 1.000 articles a year it is a valuable source of
> information, particularly about Walloon and Wallonia related topics
> (articles about language grammar, personalities, villages, rivers,
> existing and past litterature, etc), and the number of  users is still
> growing, slowly, but growing, which means there is interest in it.
>
> What I mean is, for a first try, when only limited traffic will happen,
> even hosting it on a private adsl connection is enough, a small computer 
> with a standard GNU/Linux distribution is able to run the software; so
> while there is need of some consensus and approval to be hosted by the
> wikimedia foundation and use its infrastructure; anybody can start its
> own wikipedia-like server at home. And then, depending on the results,
> an official merging with wikipedia could be asked.
>
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