[Wikipedia-l] Quenya language request

Chad Perrin perrin at apotheon.com
Sat Feb 12 04:08:56 UTC 2005


Stephen Forrest wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:21:18 -0500, Chad Perrin <perrin at apotheon.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>If we were going to create a(nother) Middle Earth language Wikipedia, it
>>wouldn't be Quenya that I'd want.  I'd want Orcish, personally.
>>
>>Of course, I realize how ludicrous that is.  There isn't even a recorded
>>Orcish language, as far as I'm aware.
> 
> 
> As I recall, there was no one language: Orcs just grabbed random
> fragments of nearby human languages and used them.  The exception
> would be Sauron's Black Speech, a consistency 'imposed from above',
> the language of the famous "One ring..." poem.
> 
> 
>>Orcish would just be too cool, though. . . .
> 
> 
> Funny enough, I was just reading the Appendices just last week, and
> was moved enough by the following fragment to transcribe it from the
> printed copy.  (Apologies in advance for the frivolity of posting this
> here.)
> 
> "But Orcs and Trolls spoke as they would, without love of words or
> things; and their language was actually more degraded than I have
> shown it. I do not suppose that any will wish for a closer rendering,
> though models are easy to find. Much the same sort of talk can still
> be heard among the orc-minded; dreary and repetitive with hatred and
> contempt, too long removed from good to retain even verbal vigour,
> save in the ears of those to whom only the squalid sounds strong." —
> J. R. R. Tolkien, Appendix F, The Lord of the Rings
> 

There's a definite set of universal Or(c|k)ish terms, though.  For 
instance, "waaaaaaaaaaaargh" is understood by Orcish peoples everywhere.

I vote for ork: as the linguistic code for Orcish.

Okay, I'm going to shut up about this horribly, badly off-topic subject now.

--
Chad



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