[Wikipedia-l] Re: Sanger's memoirs
delirium at hackish.org
Wed Apr 20 17:16:40 UTC 2005
lmsanger at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>And why, again, Jimmy, did you take four years to mention this, if it's
>worth mentioning at all? Why did you never tell me, or Wikipedians, before?
>Why is it worth mentioning just now?
Since you may not be familiar with general practice here, I should point
out that this sort of credit-assignment isn't what we spend most of our
time doing. In fact, until you came out of nowhere years after the fact
talking about your seminal role in Wikipedia, I don't recall a single
discussion taking place on this mailing list about who should get credit
in "founding" Wikipedia. Frankly, we have more important things to
worry about (such as actually creating an encyclopedia).
For what it's worth, my view on it is that who gets the credit is pretty
meaningless. As can be seen by the fact that many people suggested it,
the idea of a wiki-based encyclopedia by the time Wikipedia was started
was becoming fairly obvious, so eventually someone had to start it. If
you were the first one to actually bite the bullet and do so, great, but
I don't particularly care.
Look, you have not been a part of the Wikipedia community since early
2002, and now you reappear three years later talking about your
importance in the "founding" of Wikipedia, pimping a book, and writing
screeds about what's wrong with it while at the same time not actually
participating in any of the policy discussions, and indeed explicitly
saying you "don't have time" to actually discuss any of the issues .
Even your brief reappearance here is apparently entirely to defend your
claimed credit, not to actually discuss how to improve Wikipedia, an
endeavor in which you claim to be interested.
If your view is that you're some sort of god-king who can write screeds
that then get implemented without dirtying your hands with the business
of discussing the best course of action with us common folk, then I
think you're mistaken. If you're just trying to pump up sales for your
book or get some sort of a tenure-track position, well, carry on.
 http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2004/12/30/142458/25/194#194 -- "I
don't have time to reply to the many comments on this forum."
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