[Wikipedia-l] Re: Conflict between two Wikipedias

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Sat Apr 16 20:46:14 UTC 2005

Again I would like to point out that you are emphasising what is
"right" or "correct". Why does that matter? Why should we care? The
only people complaining about the current solution is you and other
ro.wikipedians. So far, the only Moldovan to visit has actually
expressed his opinion that the Cyrillic alphabet is better for writing
the language, and has referred to the Latin alphabet as the "Romanian
alphabet", and has not criticised the status quo.

So far there have been no complaints from real, live, Moldovans.
Again, I am being practical (as you admit), while you are being
theoretical. The status quo may not be technically "right" or
"correct", according to you, but why does that matter? There have been
no complaints from actual Moldovans, only from Romanians, and they are
all politically motivated.

My solution is practical, and currently it is working fine. As I noted
before, "mo-cyr" is a longer URL, and I don't see the need to switch
when the status quo is working just fine for all the people who
/should/ care, the only people who have a problem with it are
Romanians who are trying to meddle in the affairs of the Moldovan
Wikipedia for political reasons and replace the perfectly working
status quo with some sort of cumbersome change that they say is
technically correct, which will make the URL longer and require the
assistance of a developer.


On 16/04/05, Wikipedia Romania (Ronline) <rowikipedia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> In response to Mark's comments on Fri Apr 15 06:10:23
> UTC 2005:
> >"I don't see mo: as the Moldovan Wikipedia. I see it
> as the Moldovan Cyrillic Wikipedia..."
> But mo: *is* the Moldovan Wikipedia, it can never be
> seen as the Moldovan Cyrillic Wikipedia. Seeing it
> that way would just be biased. If we look at how mo:
> wiki started, it started because the ISO assigned the
> Moldovan language a code of "mo" and therefore it was
> created as such by Wikimedia. The language with the
> code "mo" is Moldovan, which is officially written in
> Latin script. Hence, the mo: subdomain cannot be seen
> as the Moldovan *Cyrillic* Wikipedia.
> >"So far, nobody who claims to speak
> "Moldovan" as their mother tongue has challenged it.",
> "You and your ro.wikipedian goon squad may care"
> Firstly, just because no-one challenges an idea
> doesn't mean it's right! Concerning the goon squad, I
> found that notion quite amusing actually. We have so
> far argued logically and, at least I believe so, in a
> very good manner. I don't think anyone has acted like
> a goon!
> >"Why not "Moldoveneasca" in the Cyrillic alphabet?
> Only a dunce would
> think, without some prior experience, that a link to
> "Moldoveneasca",
> /in the Cyrillic alphabet/, would get them to
> non-Cyrillic content."
> Look, again you're thinking too pratically here. Maybe
> I'm wrong because I think everything through too
> politically. The issue about how to put the interwiki
> link is not about dunces and practicality, it's about
> what's right and correct. If you put a link with
> Moldoveneasca in Cyrillic, people will think that
> Moldovan is always written, or at least
> majoritarily/officially written in Cyrillic. Plainly,
> it is not, hence we need to specify that the version
> they will be clicking on is Moldovan (Cyrillic) as
> opposed to Moldovan Latin. If there was
> "Moldoveaneasca" in both scripts, it would be OK, but
> since only the Cyrillic will be present, then we must
> specify.
> Anyway, I don't understand why you're so committed
> against forming a new subdomain for mo-cyr:. No-one
> else has seemed to mind too much about its formation,
> and it would surely delimit the issue much more
> clearly. What's so wrong? I don't even see why it
> would be detrimental to the Moldovan Cyrillic authors.
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