[Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia in China

[Fred Bauder]

'Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government
owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To
destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between
corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship
of the day.' - Theodore Roosevelt, 19 April 1906

> From: Jiong Sheng <sheng.jiong at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Jiong Sheng <sheng.jiong at gmail.com>, wikipedia-l at Wikimedia.org
> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:57:40 +0000
> To: wikipedia-l at wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia in China
> 
> Is this a humiliation or prejudice against all Chinese? A bunch of
> robbers? If you have no understanding of real China, and only got all
> your false impressions of China from newspapers or magazines, then you
> better shut up.
> 
> Look back on history, though China had the most powerful navy and army
> since the 10th century, we did not want to conquer the whole world.
> Only the whites would go all around the world robbing and killing.
> 
> Prosperity of China is indeed great. At least we would not turn into
> another superpower that invades another country thousands of miles
> away.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 06:27:02 -0600, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at ctelco.net> wrote:
>> Perhaps today a wayward Chinese soldier would be tempted by a Blackberry. I
>> think the prosperity of China is great. Live long and prosper...
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>>> From: "yuanml" <yuanml at pku.org.cn>
>>> Reply-To: wikipedia-l at Wikimedia.org
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:28:24 +0800
>>> To: "wikipedia-l" <wikipedia-l at Wikimedia.org>
>>> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia in China
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> To Fred Bauder:
>>>> There have been instances where Chinese troops have been undisciplined.
>>>> All it proves is that people who have been desperately poor
>>>> all their lives were tempted by wristwatches and ballpoint pens.
>>> 
>>> Do you know what you said is things about 20 years ago when I'm only a
>>> child?
>>> Do you know China have the most cell-phone users in the world now?
>>> Do you know China have ten million broadband Internet users,
>>> just after USA, Japan and Korea, and will surpass Korea soon?
>>> Yes, we are a developing country, but we are developing fast.
>>> 
>>> I have to say that the mailing list now is full of bias on China.
>>> 
>>> About Tibet problem, I provide some history issue
>>> to reflect the common opinion in China.
>>> Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama must be approved their identity
>>> by the central government since Qing dynasty hundreds years ago.
>>> Just in 1910s when China was very weak,
>>> there was a movment to divided Tibet from China.
>>> Great British took some part in the issue,
>>> And we dislike the colonialism role of Great British.
>>> 
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