[Wikipedia-l] wikipedia in China

Jens Ropers ropers at ropersonline.com
Fri Sep 24 20:43:54 UTC 2004

Not to forget the mild murder of Iraqi POVs.
And the mild torture of Iraqi POVs.
And the mild flouting of the U.N and mild U.N.-confirmed breach of 
international law that was invading the country in the first place.
And the mild taking of civilian hostages by U.S. forces. (I ain't 
making this up -- the U.S. arrested in large numbers the wifes of 
*suspected* Iraqi resistance fighters to blackmail their husbands to 
lay down their arms. (Iraqis have a right to bear arms.) Note that 
these women were civilians who had not committed any crimes. Add to 
that the fact that it is internationally known and established by even 
U.S. military tribunals that Iraqi civilians have previously been 
tortured and killed while in U.S. custody and you should get an idea 
why the current despicable acts of Iraqis abducting and killing U.S. 
civilians didn't come out of the blue. What would YOU do if a 
militarily superior foreign army occupying your country were to suspect 
you of being a resistance fighter, possibly purely based on what area 
you live in? What would you do if your wife then got arrested by an 
occupying force which you know has previously tortured and killed 
people they arrest? I'm asking you to seriously follow through this 
thought experiment: How do you think you would react?)

Mild indeed.

To my mind, Ray's choice of words--"fuck-up"--is FAR more accurate.

-- ropers [[en:User:Ropers]]

On 24 Sep 2004, at 22:27, Jens Ropers wrote:

> On 24 Sep 2004, at 22:10, Delirium wrote:
>> Ray Saintonge wrote:
>>> Tibet is not on the other side of the globe.  At least it has a 
>>> border with China.  That situation is not comparable to the Iraqi 
>>> fuck-up.
>> Indeed, there is no reasonable way to compare the abhorrent Chinese 
>> atrocities in Tibet, which have included mass forced migrations and 
>> attacks on religious shrines, to the comparatively mild US atrocities 
>> in Iraq.
>> -Mark
> Like the mild napalm-bombing of civilians?
> Like the mild scattering of depleted uranium all over the country?
> Like the mild killings of journalists?
> Like the mild forcing of people out of certain areas as before the 
> also mild siege of Fallujah?
> Like the mild shelling of Mosques?

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