[Wikipedia-l] Re: wikipedia in China

Jens Ropers ropers at ropersonline.com
Fri Sep 24 01:54:22 UTC 2004

Erik, I actually agree with a a lot of things you said.

HOWEVER, as regards this comment:

On 24 Sep 2004, at 02:35, Erik Moeller wrote:
> I have to disagree here, but I also have to say that I consider the
> Chinese government nothing but fascism with a red touch.

Well... let me get this straight:
You're accusing the Chinese government (did you mean "system of 
government"?) of being "nothing but fascism with a red touch."
So you're not just saying there are a couple of very foul apples in the 
basket -- you're saying there are ''NOTHING BUT'' foul apples (and a 
dab of red) in there.

You're posting on a mailing list which is frequented by Chinese 
You've just told them that EVERYTHING their government has achieved was 
foul, rotten and worthless.

Isn't that somewhat stark?

Also--correct me if I'm mistaken--you're German.
Assuming that you're a socially responsible person you are undoubtedly 
aware of the "special place" Germany holds in the history of fascism.
You're hopefully also aware that Germany's express allies in the 
Fascist Axis, the Japanese, had a certain role in something known as 
the (AFAIK still not apologized-for) [[Nanjing Massacre]].
You also must be aware that a historical continuity exists between 
those Chinese who fought AGAINST a WWII aggressor, Fascist Axis power 
(i.e. Japan) and those who are now part of the Chinese government at 
all levels.

Yet you're telling our Chinese contributors--who are of the very people 
who have paid such a high price--you're telling them to their face that 
THEIR government, not the Japanese/German Fascist Axis, but rather 
THEIR government was  "nothing but fascism".

Excuse me, but I for one find that stark. I'm not Chinese, but if I was 
Chinese I would go livid right now and demand a public apology.

-- ropers [[en:User:Ropers]]

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