[Wikipedia-l] Formal request: Wikinews project

[Anthony DiPierro]

I'm skeptical about how well suited a wiki is to original research.  But I
think it's extremely well suited to news summaries, a la Slashdot.  Since
there isn't really anything out there to do this, I think this will quickly
become a huge success just for the news summaries.  Maybe it'll work for
original news reporting too, I think the current proposals on how to run
things are necessary changes to the wiki model which are necessary for it to
have a chance.

I do have a couple comments though.

"These stories will then undergo systematic review for another period of
time, in which the editors try to find consensus."

I'm not sure it's reasonable to require consensus support for publication.
I'd rather see a requirement that two or three accredited editors support an
article, and they can be named somewhere in the article.  Then, as long as
there isn't a majority of opposition to the article, the article can stay.
In theory there will be many more news articles in Wikinews than there are
encyclopedia articles in Wikipedia.  That's just the nature of news.  I
don't think it's reasonable to expect every news article to be a
collaborative work of all editors.  That's just not scalable.  This is a
fundamental difference between Wikinews and Wikipedia, and it needs to be
addressed.

GFDL

There was talk about the impact Wikinews would have on Wikipedia, and a
comment was made that Wikipedia will naturally copy Wikinews content where
appropriate.  But if Wikinews is GFDL, this isn't as simple as using copy
and paste.  It would be best if Wikinews contributors were asked to give
permission for this from the beginning.  This might take the form of
"contributions made to Wikinews may be included in a derivative GFDL work so
long as that work gives credit to the original author."  Even this becomes
problematic when copying news stories with multiple authors, but it's better
than having to adhere to the details of the GFDL regarding history sections
and title pages etc.

Note that the tempting solution of just using a different license altogether
is probably not a good one, because Wikinews stories will likely benefit
greatly from being able to include introductory text from Wikipedia, even if
that does mean they then have to include a byline and history section
mentioning the Wikipedia author(s).

Copies from VOANews and other PD sources?

One thing I'd like to do in Wikinews is copy some stories from PD sources
such as VOANews.com and edit them.  This doesn't seem to fall under
"summaries from external sources", but I don't think I should be required to
be an accredited editor to do this.  I'd like to see it clarified that this
falls under the types of news stories anonymous editors can create.

Anthony