[Wikipedia-l] multilingual wikipedia

[Mattis Manzel]

Ray Saintonge schrieb:

> Mattis Manzel wrote:
>
>> I'd like to propose a new Wikipedia: "the multilingual wikipedia"
>>
>> Some ideas about how to do that are on 
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Multilingual_communication
>>
>> I would be very interested in getting the multilingual features of 
>> oddmuse (the colored background, the language filters) ported to 
>> Mediawiki and then start working on two things:
>>
>> A) Elaborate the engine to make it work for multilingual pages: 
>> language filters also in the edit mode, inclusion of automatic 
>> pretranslation in a new translate-mode, etc.
>> B) Start making the "multilingual wikipedia". Kinda getting people 
>> into the fun of translation.
>>
>> Hopefully this wouldn't require a fork of Mediawiki. Unfortunately I 
>> have a vage feeling that it does. In that case I propose as a name 
>> for the multilingual Mediawiki engine: MMediawiki ;)
>>
>> But who knows?  Maybe things are easier than I think?
>
>
> Or more difficult.  I think the idea is full of naïve optimism about 
> translation in general, and machine translation in particular.  Begin 
> with an English text and translate it into another language.  Have 
> someone else, who cannot see the original, translate it back into 
> English.  Compare the two English versions.  The difference can be 
> amazing.
>
> On another level, articles on the same subject are often separately 
> developed in each language.  This can often result in having stable 
> NPOVs in each language that are different, frequently in the wake of 
> careful negotiation over the exact meaning of a word.  Reconciling 
> these could be extremely difficult.  I can easily imagine that 
> attitudes toward US foreign policy might not be as conflicted when 
> written in many languages other than English.
> En
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So, is it multiple worlds or do we live in one world? Do the elections 
in the US concen us here in Europe or do they not? Does it makes sense 
to effecivate wiki by making it a global thing instead of the thing of a 
signle langage pool like English or German or not? When we can (try) so?

So does NPOV existt at all or is it but a crusaders dream? Multiple 
point of view. MPOV, Coexistance and collaboration. ;) In short: terms wiki.