[Wikipedia-l] Re: Time to set up Wikimedia ProjectCommittees
Anthere
anthere8 at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 27 07:42:34 UTC 2004
I am suddenly having doubts.
What I wrote below is my vision of Wikipedia (the big project)
I have little vision of the other projects, perhaps could other people
express their sentiments on those ?
No one made any comments ?
Does that mean everyone agree, or no one read ? :-)
I am serious there. Perhaps am I wrong on one of these points. I tried
to state the core principles of the Wikipedias. Perhaps I made a mistake
? Perhaps for example, are we planning to make people pay for it in a
while ?
Is there a ***charter*** somewhere ?
Mav, was there not a beginning of a draft of a charter somewhere ? Did
not we have a discussion about that ?
I found http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_charter, with a very
wise comment from Little Dan at the top
We need this. That is the charter that will set the ciment between the
various languages.
We need a charter.
Don't you think ?
Anthere a écrit:
>
>
> Elisabeth Bauer a écrit:
>
>> The wikimedia foundation is for keeping the servers running,
>> collecting funds and defending the projects against legal threats, but
>> not for enforcing rules (or a however defined code of ethics) upon all
>> projects.
>>
>> greetings,
>> elian
>
>
> Hummm....plus perhaps, what Jimbo has been defining from the very
> beginning of the project : a certain number of *core* issues which make
> all of us part of ONE big project, not a collection of loose ones.
>
> To my opinion, as respect wikipedia itself (it might be slightly
> different for other projects)
> * it is a generalist encyclopedia, meant to gather free knowledge (-> gfdl)
> * it will make that information freely available to anyone (readers do
> not pay to read wikipedia)
> * in as many languages as possible
> * with free participation (everyone is welcome, regardless of his
> nationality, sex, color, age, education, and no one has to pay to
> participate)
> * with participants bound to be respectful of copyright issues, of
> neutrality requirement, and of other participants (three types of
> violation which are likely to grant banning)
>
> And...I think that is just about it.
>
> That is what Jimbo (and other core contributors) has been repeating over
> and over in the past three years. And I think that should be what the
> board job should also be about (on top on promotion, representation, and
> technical issues).
>
> A guarantee that these core issues are always respected, no matter what.
> That no wikipedia will ever change the copyright, will ever ban people
> for their political opinion, will ever refuse participations from people
> with less than a phD...whatever
>
> For this reason, articles such as Section 4.4., which states that
>
> the Board of Trustees shall be empowered to order suspension of
> membership or the suspension of particular or specific user privileges
> at its sole discretion of any member upon receipt of a verified
> complaint of misconduct;
>
> is not clear enough.
>
> I think again at what I have been expecting (and what I still expect)
> from Jimbo as help.
>
> I will only give one example : it is up to each local wikipedia to
> ensure that no disruptive individual mess things up. So, it is to each
> local wikipedia to decide who should be banned; Not to any board, whose
> members will not know the specificities of the local wikipedia, nor the
> bottom line of the issues at stack.
> However, if anyone does believe the banning was wrong, not in line with
> wikipedia core principles (such as banning someone for holding an
> undesirable political opinion), the issue should be brought in front of
> the board, and the board study the case, and eventually have the person
> unbanned.
>
> Or declare that a wikipedia is not part of the wikipedia project if it
> is no more following the gfdl requirement.
>
> That means in effect, that only few, but major decisions, should be
> taken by the board itself, as regards policies. Minor policies are not
> part of those. Perhaps, that should be explained more clearly in the
> current document.
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