[Wikipedia-l] Re: image copyright

[Yann Forget]

Hi,

>>>I have doubts. Many images are indicated copyrighted, but that the
>>> author gave permission for use. And they are in Wikipedia.
>>>When we wrote the images copyright pages with Alex, this case was
>>> mentionned, and we have some images under that copyright. Again, we
>>> think that it is better than no image at all, and better than image
>>> under fair use.
>>
>> And no, it is not better than fair use, it is worse.
>> I would tolerate fair use, because the law gives us the right to use
>> the image *without* consent from the author. I won't tolerate a status
>> where the author can change his/her mind at will. That's not
>> acceptable for Wikipedia.
>> And I would delete images under this kind of status.
>
> I disagree. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3ACopyrights if you
> read it, allows that type of mention.
> You also know that fair use does not exist in France for example. Now,
> if National Geographic allow us to use 500 absolutely great pictures we
> can't find anywhere else, I would support this use. When someone offers
> you something, you do not frown the nose.
> I think it is more reasonable to use a copyrighted images offered by its
>   original author, that to just ask nothing, use it and hope that no one
> will ever discover the use in question.

Then, for the end user, what is the difference with fair use?
You should look at the small argument I had with Rinaldum about this:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia:Pages_soup%E7onn%E9es_de_copyright

>>>>>Because, if I am glad to offer my images under gfdl as a recognised
>>>>> author, I do not agree that my images are now registered as under
>>>>> copyright by Anthony DiPierro, with my name gone, perhaps for him to
>>>>> make money over my work.
>>
>> Now that's very bad. we should take this case (and others of the same
>> kind) seriously.
>
> Taking it seriously should mean taking position all together as a group.
>  Not just answering people it is their problem.

I agree with that. What do we do now?
Yann

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