[Wikipedia-l] Voting versus consensus

Adam Bishop grenfell_ at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 27 19:00:44 UTC 2003


Why not just leave the puzzle pieces blank entirely? I think the point would 
still come across that way.

Adam Bishop

>From: Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net>
>Reply-To: wikipedia-l at Wikipedia.org
>To: wikipedia-l at Wikipedia.org
>Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Voting versus consensus
>Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:41:15 -0700
>
>tarquin wrote:
>
>>Erik Moeller wrote:
>>
>>>What was missing was a good overview of the pros and cons of each logo.  
>>>This has technical reasons -- with the pages already very big and over 
>>>130  submissions, discussions had to be relegated to relatively hidden 
>>>talk  pages. I'm not very happy with this, because I believe in the 
>>>principle of  *informed* democracy.
>>
>>Yes, I agree entirely with this.
>>I think the winner got so many votes because it incorporates words in many 
>>languages, which probably appealed to people because it looks 
>>"international".
>>But this excessive text is *exactly* what makes it a terrible logo - it 
>>doesn't scale down and the filesize is TOO BIG for the web.
>
>After reading more about this subject than I care to, and not being 
>particularly enthusiastic about the results, I do want to make a 
>suggestion.
>
>1. Use the puzzle piece logo (with modifications) as the logo for 
>Wikimedia.
>    a. Get rid of the meaningless text from the surface of the globe.
>    b. In each pussle piece include the 2-letter ISO639-1 code for some 
>language, oriented to conform with the position of that piece on the globe. 
>  These letters can be omitted from scaled down versions of the logo.
>    c. The centre puzzle piece should preferably be blank to generically 
>represent all the non-Wikipedia projects.  The worst thing you could put in 
>the centre piece would be "en"
>
>2. Each project could design its own logo, use the one it already has or 
>use a temporary generic logo while it is designing its own.
>    a. A key required element of each logo would be a single puzzle peice.  
>It would be up to the participants of that project to determine how that 
>puzzle piece would be worked into aesthetic conformity with the existing 
>design.
>    b. The puzzle piece would either be blank or contain the 2-letter code 
>for that language.
>
>3. The underlying concept is that Wikimedia brings together the diverse 
>puzzle pieces to form a single world.  Each project is one piece of that 
>puzzle.
>
>Ec.
>
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