[Wikipedia-l] Tomos: mailman i18n issues

[Hunter Peress]

Tomos, obviously, the most immediate solution is to try to address things in a conservative way.
The changes that I have discussed on this board will take months (probably) to implement and test.

Anyway, your issue is a smaller one, and I am chatting with the mailman developers right now on :

irc.freenode.net #mailman

WHOOPS, here is what i also meant to say:

Could you show us (via png) a mailman page where the japanese is dealt with poorly, and then could
you be so kind as to show us what it should look like?

And finally. could you provide *any* insight as to what might be causing this problem inside
mailman (even a wild guess is better than nothing). If you want to help hack through this issue
come to #mailman and #wikipedia, i am known as skimpIzu on both. If i am not there, please wait
around for as long as it takes for me to be there, i online everyday.


--- Erik Moeller <erik_moeller at gmx.de> wrote:
> Hunter-
> > Each of those steps would be to make one act more like other. This implies
> > developing one of the paths to the point where an acceptable system is
> > achieved. As I have shown, there are no worries to be had about this
> > potentially precarious process as I have already hacked through phpbb, and I
> > am a pythoneer, thus am very comfortable with the internals of mailman.
> 
> That's fine. Just keep in mind that the mailing list functionality needs  
> to continue to operate as it does now.
> 
> > I have already presented why:specifically to conduct my research and
> > development on the wikipedia machine in a completely open fashion. I have
> > monitered the lists here over time, and there has even been a thread about
> > granting everyone on wikipedia shell access. Were this idea fact by this
> > point, I would have had a shell account 7 months ago.
> 
> Wikipedia is not a shell account provider. If you beg long enough, you  
> will probably get access, but you have to understand that this is a  
> significantly bigger issue than sysop access. I would not be surprised if  
> shell users could read LocalSettings.php and read the database server  
> access settings, for example.
> 
> There's nothing stopping you from going to
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/
> http://developer.berlios.de/
> http://savannah.gnu.org/
> 
> and setting up a new project for whatever you're trying to do. These all  
> provide free hosting and CVS for open source projects. BerliOS also  
> provides a MySQL database. So you can develop all the code openly if you  
> want to. You can install mailman locally and use the Wikipedia archives  
> for experimenting. I really don't see why you would need shell access to  
> accomplish anything you are trying to accomplish.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Erik
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