[Wikipedia-l] Re: Sysop nomination

[Jens Frank]

On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:09:55AM +0200, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
> Jens Frank <JeLuF at gmx.de> writes:
> 
> > That's easy to fix. You've proven not to be a vandal, so you can
> > become a sysop. Any objections anyone?
> 
> No, that's not what I want ;-) Such a change would not fix the problem
> for all the other (anonymous) editors.  Perhaps it's just the title
> ("sysop") I don't like.  I would agree with something called "advanced
> editor" or "senior editor", though.

On irc, they are called the regulars. But whatever you call it, it has
a small touch of elitism. But I fear it has to. Some features are very
usefull, but can also be easily abused. The "regular crew" should have
a little advantage against the vandals. That's why they get some tools
the unknown user doesn't get. In the past, "move this page" was reserved
to sysops. It was found useful, and later, the possible harm  was 
considered minor. So it was made available to any logged in user. Not 
logged in users don't have this feature.

Reverting anything in an User's Contribution list can drive people mad.
It's a very hard thing to do. Using the revert-feature, I can undo
a whole day's work of a user in less than a minute, generating a very
high system load and lots of new versions in the database.

I think this feature should be reserved for proven non-vandals.
This could be done by a 100-edits-rule or something, but the current
agreed upon procedure is to have a four-level hierarchy:

- Not logged in:
  Can edit.
- Logged in:
  Can edit, move, make minor edits.
- Op/Regular/Senior:
  Can edit, move, make minor edits, delete, revert automatically,
  ban not logged in users.
- Developer:
  Can edit, move, make minor edits, delete, revert automatically,
  ban any user,  permanently delete, change the software and
  mess up everything to a degree I don't want to imagine.

There is a fifth attribute, "bot", that's the same as a logged
in user whose edits don't appear in recent changes.

I personally think this are enough levels. Logged in users who
have proven to be reliable shall become Op/Regular/Senior and
have all those features available. No Salami-tactic. 

	JeLuF