[Wikipedia-l] Re: copyrightexpired.com (fwd)

[Oliver Pereira]

Hello list,

This chap David Goldman has a website called copyrightexpired.com, where
he has some old images that he has scanned. I'm forwarding our
correspondence to the list, just to clutter it up and annoy everyone.
*cough* I mean, because I'm not sure about copyright laws, and would like
to get the opinions of people here just to make sure his pictures are all
right to release under the GNU Free Documentation License.

Oliver

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| Oliver Pereira                            |
| Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science |
| University of Southampton                 |
| omp199 at ecs.soton.ac.uk                    |
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:40:21 -0400
From: David Goldman <dgoldma2 at twcny.rr.com>
To: Oliver Pereira <omp199 at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: copyrightexpired.com

That would all be fine. Let me know if you need exact publication dates for
any certain image. They are all published before 1922. The only ones that I
don't have documentation on are the Tiere der Urwelt cards from Germany
(some of the color images). There appearance suggests pre WWI but no date
has been confirmed.
David


----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver Pereira" <omp199 at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
To: "David Goldman" <dgoldma2 at twcny.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: copyrightexpired.com


> Dear David,
>
> Thank you for replying to my question about your website,
> copyrightexpired.com. I'm sorry that I've taken so long to reply. I was
> wondering, since neither of us is a lawyer, would it be all right for me
> to quote your message on the Wikipedia mailing list, so that someone there
> with more legal expertise can check if our using your images in the
> Wikipedia would be all right? There are some complications in the GNU Free
> Documentation License which I don't fully understand, so I'd feel more
> comfortable if we could get another opinion.
>
> If we did use your images, we would credit you in the associated image
> information page, and put a link back to your website there. We don't
> generally put credits in the article pages themselves, where the images
> are shown, for space reasons. However, clicking on an image takes you to
> the associated image information page, where the credit would be given.
> Does that sound all right to you?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Oliver Pereira
>
>
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, David Goldman wrote:
>
> > Hi, the images at that web site are found in books and magazines old
enough
> > to be considered in the public domain. But it is merely my understanding
and
> > not based on any formal legal research. I like the idea of the Wikipedia
and
> > welcome you to use any of the images on my site that you find useful.
Since
> > I have other sites that show pictures belonging to practicing artists,
I
> > thought it prudent to try and have people contact me before using any
images
> > in general. I would appreciate a reference back to my website on any of
the
> > illustrations that you use.
> > Best regards,
> > David Goldman
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Oliver Pereira" <omp199 at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> > To: "David Goldman" <dgoldma2 at twcny.rr.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:06 PM
> > Subject: copyrightexpired.com
> >
> >
> > > Dear Mr. Goldman,
> > >
> > > I have just discovered your website, copyrightexpired.com, and have
some
> > > questions about it. You say on your main page that the site contains a
> > > "sampling of my collection of Prehistoric Animal images published
prior to
> > > 1923", and the domain name suggests that the images are no longer
> > > copyrighted. However, you then go on to state conditions under which
users
> > > may or may not use the images. Presumably you would only be able to do
> > > this if you owned the copyrights. Is this the case?
> > >
> > > I would be interested in using the images in an online collaborative
> > > encyclopaedia, called the "Wikipedia". Ideally, images included in the
> > > Wikipedia should be released under the terms of the GNU Free
Documentation
> > > License by the copyright holder, if there is one. If you are the
copyright
> > > holder, would you consent to do this?
> > >
> > > Thank you for your help in answering my questions,
> > >
> > > Oliver Pereira
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > See:-
> > >
> > > copyrightexpired.com:
> > > * http://www.copyrightexpired.com/
> > >
> > > Wikipedia:
> > > * http://www.wikipedia.org/
> > >
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> > > | Oliver Pereira                            |
> > > | Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science |
> > > | University of Southampton                 |
> > > | omp199 at ecs.soton.ac.uk                    |
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> > >
> >
> >
>
> +-------------------------------------------+
> | Oliver Pereira                            |
> | Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science |
> | University of Southampton                 |
> | omp199 at ecs.soton.ac.uk                    |
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